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[–] BioMan@awful.systems 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (29 children)

The Great Leader himself, on how he avoids going insane during the onging End of the World because among other things that's not what an intelligent character would do in a story, but you might not be capable of that.

[–] zogwarg@awful.systems 10 points 2 days ago (13 children)

Screaming at the void towards Chuunibyou (wiki) Eliezer: YOU ARE NOT A NOVEL CHARACTER, THINKING OF WHAT BENEFITS THE NOVELIST vs THE CHARACTER HAS NO BEARING ON REAL LIFE.

Sorry for yelling.

Minor notes:

But thinks I should say it, so I will say it. [...] asked me to speak them anyways, so I will.

It's quite petty of Yud to be so passive-aggressive towards his employee insisted he at least try to discuss coping. Name dropping him not once but twice (although that is also likely to just be poor editing)

"How are you coping with the end of the world?" [...Blah...Blah...Spiel about going mad tropes...]

Yud, when journalists ask you "How are you coping?", they don't expect you to be "going mad facing apocalypse", that is YOUR poor imagination as a writer/empathetic person. They expect you to be answering how you are managing your emotions and your stress, or bar that give a message of hope or of some desperation, they are trying to engage with you as real human being, not as a novel character.

Alternatively it's also a question to gauge how full of shit you may be. (By gauging how emotionally invested you are)

The trope of somebody going insane as the world ends, does not appeal to me as an author, including in my role as the author of my own life. It seems obvious, cliche, predictable, and contrary to the ideals of writing intelligent characters. Nothing about it seems fresh or interesting. It doesn't tempt me to write, and it doesn't tempt me to be.

Emotional turmoil and how characters cope, or fail to cope makes excellent literature! That all you can think of is "going mad", reflects only your poor imagination as both a writer and a reader.

I predict, because to them I am the subject of the story and it has not occurred to them that there's a whole planet out there too to be the story-subject.

This is only true if they actually accept the premise of what you are trying to sell them.

[...] I was rolling my eyes about how they'd now found a new way of being the story's subject.

That is deeply Ironic, coming from someone who makes choice based on him being the main character of a novel.

Besides being a thing I can just decide, my decision to stay sane is also something that I implement by not writing an expectation of future insanity into my internal script / pseudo-predictive sort-of-world-model that instead connects to motor output.

If you are truly doing this, I would say that means you are expecting insanity wayyyyy to much. (also psychobabble)

[...Too painful to actually quote psychobabble about getting out of bed in the morning...]

In which Yud goes in depth, and self-aggrandizing nonsensical detail about a very mundane trick about getting out of bed in the morning.

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yud seems to have the same conception of insanity that Lovecraft did, where you learn too much and end up gibbering in a heap on the floor and needing to be fed through a tube in an asylum or whatever. Even beyond the absurdity of pretending that your authorial intent has some kind of ability to manifest reality as long as you don't let yourself be the subject (this is what no postmodernism does to a person), the actual fear of "going mad" seems fundamentally disconnected from any real sense of failing to handle the stress of being famously certain that the end times are indeed upon us. I guess prophets of doom aren't really known for being stable or immune to narcissistic flights of fancy.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 10 points 2 days ago

Having a SAN stat act like an INT (IQ) stat is very on brand for rationalists (except ofc the INT stat is immutable duh)

[–] scruiser@awful.systems 10 points 2 days ago

the actual fear of “going mad” seems fundamentally disconnected from any real sense of failing to handle the stress of being famously certain that the end times are indeed upon us

I think he actually is failing to handle the stress he has inflicted on himself, and that's why his latest few lesswrong posts hadreally stilted poor parables about Chess and about alien robots visiting earth that were much worse than classic sequences parables. And why he has basically given up trying to think of anything new and instead keeps playing the greatest lesswrong hits on repeat, as if that would convince anyone that isn't already convinced.

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