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I really hope this is some kind of poorly thought out gag.
So that's, what, 4/7 at a quick glance? If I had less to do I'd dig in a little and see if he fits the other three. Unfortunately, a spat on Lemmy isn't really worth the time.
It's not my job to teach you what words mean, and yet here I am. This will be my last good-faith response. If you're just here to troll, do it elsewhere.
That's the thing though. Those other three are pretty important.
It's not a troll, I just think fascism is uniquely dangerous and we should use words correctly. This is the same twisting of words that lets people smear Zelinsky or whoever as a fascist. You can always find some points of commonality but you need to whole definition to match, not just parts of it.
And saying it's open fascism is even more silly. It's only open fascism if they're self-describing that way. There aren't any openly fascist countries today.
You know, I lied. I appreciate an honest response, particularly when coming from such a vitriol laced exchange, so I take back that "last good-faith response" statement.
I do still disagree to some capacity, and think that your take is a matter of muddying the methodology with the goal/results. The autocratic dictator with a strangle hold on the media, using their own version of the law to kill/jail their political opponents, is far more important to what makes a fascist than other elements. But there's a genuine argument to be made that if I can't be bothered to do a deeper read on the guy and the state of current day Venezula, maybe I shouldn't throw around the F word so readily, so I'll take that. I stand by the "the short description is pretty likely a fascist dictator," but admit that, if we were to take a more serious, academic approach to it, I would absolutely be jumping the gun.
Regardless, I appreciate the de-escalation and genuine take on the subject. The snarky one liners and snap backs from both of us were disrespectful to both of us.
Agreed but just to give you a counterpoint to your last part.
It’s not because they don’t describe themselves as fascist that they are not fascist. The European far-right hates it when you tell them that they are far right. They always respond by saying no I am « conservative » or « I just want to protect our culture » etc…