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U.S. Army secretary warned Ukraine of imminent defeat while pushing initial peace plan (www.nbcnews.com)

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[–] kindred@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

why the fuck would you bring it up as a reason to think Ukraine isn't losing?

I was bringing it up as a reason to think the case for Russia winning wasn't a clear slam dunk.

Resorting to conscription to fill your ranks is not something you do when you're "obviously winning".

And before you make a claim about Ukraine resorting to conscription, too, at no point have I claimed Ukraine was "obviously winning" either.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 5 points 22 hours ago

Why is that a reason, if that particular factor is a wash for both sides?

Resorting to conscription to fill your ranks is not something you do when you’re “obviously winning”.

Uhuh. So when the Soviets were flattening Berlin they weren't obviously winning? When the US had sunken the entire Japanese Navy and were systemically saturation bombing the Japanese mainland, they weren't obviously winning?