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Not an excuse. If I kill my elderly innocent neighbor and steal everything they own because I'm in danger of falling behind on rent it explains but doesn't excuse my actions. That is on top of the "poverty draft" being mostly a myth at this point.
The fact that your first thought was "falling behind on rent" and not "haven't eaten in days and my kids are starving" tells me you know nothing about being in poverty. Pray tell, what do you mean by the "poverty draft" being a myth? Do you mean they don't deliberately target them? Do we need to have the conversation about incentive structures and feedback loops again? You don't need a deliberate choice to target poor people for the incentives to line up that way.
Edit: Regardless, do you think they just throw recruits into the murder? They exploit them, get them dependent on the structure, indoctrinate them first. By the time murdering the neighbor comes they've already been made to feel like it's impossible to say no. Why the sugar frosted fuck do you think we need so many fucking videos reminding service members they CAN REFUSE UNLAWFUL ORDERS?
You know nothing about me I've been homeless for years at a time fuck off with that shit. What I mean by calling it a myth is that the average military recruit is slightly richer than the average American and that those in extreme poverty and the least likely to join only rivalved by the ultra rich. Soldiering is a middle class profession currently. How is anything you say an excuse youre excusing mass murderers and genocidal racist war criminals and presenting them as the primary victims of their own actions makes me throw up.
https://www.military-ranks.org/army-pay
Starts at $24k per year. Not to worry, though, once you're a sergeant with 14 years experience it caps out at $48k, and once you've reached literally the highest rank of enlisted man it is possible to achieve, of which there is only one in the entire army, it goes up to $118k!
(You do get a signing bonus, too, which since you're a middle-class person and not being taken advantage of, you'll stick into an investment account to start saving up for your middle-class life, instead of buying a new Dodge Charger. All those new recruits with their investment accounts are practically a meme at this point.)
Bless.
Motherfuckers around here parrotting lies just because they mesh well with their pre-establushed hate boner.
Plus food, housing, medical. More bennies if you knock up one of the local strippers. Money for education, sweet home loan terms, preferential hiring…
Meanwhile, full-time work at Federal minimum is $15k a year. Biggest benefit is that you get to keep your soul.
This also means more to lose if you try to disobey what you think is an unlawful order but when you get to the court martial it's found to be lawful. Weird, it's like we understand that these kind of imbalanced power dynamics make people feel like they just have to accept what they're given and can't say no in some contexts but not others...
But it's okay because these people "sold their souls" which I guess you say to mean they've forfeited their humanity?
I respect the pigs that kill themselves.
You’re still so concerned about yourself, and not at all about the people you chose to harm for a bigger paycheck.
Jesse what the fuck are you talking about?
Have fun fucking shadowboxing I guess lmao.
I think I'm going to stop making fun of your point of view now, I think the point is made
"They are victimized and exploited by the system too."
"How dare you present these mass murderers as the primary victims."
You win. You're the better leftist than me honey. I can't beat that shit.