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Despite the US’s economic success, income inequality remains breathtaking. But this is no glitch – it’s the system

The Chinese did rather well in the age of globalization. In 1990, 943 million people there lived on less than $3 a day measured in 2021 dollars – 83% of the population, according to the World Bank. By 2019, the number was brought down to zero. Unfortunately, the United States was not as successful. More than 4 million Americans – 1.25% of the population – must make ends meet with less than $3 a day, more than three times as many as 35 years ago.

The data is not super consistent with the narrative of the US’s inexorable success. Sure, American productivity has zoomed ahead of that of its European peers. Only a handful of countries manage to produce more stuff per hour of work. And artificial intelligence now promises to put the United States that much further ahead.

This is not to congratulate China for its authoritarian government, for its repression of minorities or for the iron fist it deploys against any form of dissent. But it merits pondering how this undemocratic government could successfully slash its poverty rate when the richest and oldest democracy in the world wouldn’t.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

In the GDP calculation, the Official Inflation figure is used to "deflate" (so, reduce) the Nominal GDP (i.e. in dollars, including inflation) into the Real GDP, which is the Official one and is supposedly free of inflation hence can be compared to previous years.

Now, if you're in the US (also in other countries, but the US seems to be extra bad in this) look around at the price of your weekly shopping (don't forget to include shrinkflation) and house prices and tell me that the inflation is really just 2.9%.

Even better, ask somebody old enough to remember how much their salary bought back in the 60s and then use some online inflation adjustment calculator and converts that salary value to present day value (using the official inflation figures over the years) and see how much it buys (hint: what was enough to support a family of 5 with a house and a decent car back then is barelly enough to rent a one-room appartment nowadays).

And this is just how the bullshit Official Inflations pumps up GDP numbers which in turn lets politicians loudly celebrate how much GDP "growth" there was under their administration.

Then go into how the Nominal GDP itself is created - for example house prices feed into GDP via something called "Inputted Rent" were a homeowner is treated as renting their own house from themselves, said "rent" being treated as adding to GDP. Not only is the notion that merelly living in your home actually creates wealth some serious bollocks, but also this process means that realestate bubbles (such as the one that regularly keeps on getting inflated) actually add to GDP - in other words that house prices going up driven by speculation somehow make the real value (i.e. in terms of what it provides to people living it, which how this GDP supposedly is "created") of properties go up even though those properties weren't improved in any way form or shape and are just worth more because they've become part of an "investment asset class".

All this to say that US GDP is complete total bullshit.

Same applies to most other Western countries, by the way, but the US seems to be one of the ones where such official numbers are extra fraudulent.

It's not just for China that one has to look at indirect indicators such as electric power usage to figure out what's really going on.