Andor may have been the only actually good Star Wars anything. It is so weird that they made a show with good writing and no pandering only to have douchebags complain that the series was more expensive that their crappy 2.5 hour movies.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Rogue One didn't measure up?

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 10 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Personally I thought Rogue One was ok in cinemas, but I found it hard to care very much about the characters, so it wasn't any better than "ok".

Rewatching it after Andor really lifted it for me, because now I did have an investment in the characters to a much greater degree.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Absolutely. That’s something I couldn’t quite put my finger on. I thought Rogue One was great. It really filled in a lot of the missing Star Wars movie lore (if one didn’t read any of the books), and it was a darker movie in the vein of ESB.

Then I watched Andor.

You really get a much, much deeper take on all the characters and the story gets far more detail.

And as soon as I watched the last episode of Andor I watched Rogue One again and it really feels more like assembling disparate parts into an action film.

But that’s the price of having to assemble a big story and see it all in ~two hours.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yeah Andor really highlights how light on character development Rogue One is. It’s just action scenes stringed together with a bit of traveling and dialogue. Like I didn’t care for most of the deaths in the movie or even feel sad for Jyn because the movie didn’t make me feel invested in the characters.

The same problem is there with Gareth Edwards other movies like Godzilla and The Creator. Lots of action, lots of characters, but not enough time spend on the characters to feel emotionally connected to them.

[–] group_hug@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah, people claim Andor is a great movie. But to me it doesn't hold up. It looks like a great movie. What I always imagined and hoped for in a prequel/sequel as a kid.

But... All the main characters died at the end and I didn't care at all. In contrast the bloody robot died in the middle of the movie and I was very sad.

To me it totally falls flat on its protagonist. Which is kind of critical for a movie to be "good" in my books. At least it had a protagonist, I guess, unlike the Phantom Menace,

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 3 days ago

Eww, Red Letter Media? I thought we had collectively finally agreed that their low-effort nitpicking style of media criticism was crap back around the time Nostalgia Critic and Cinema Sins got cancelled. I honestly can't believe RLM was ever popular. Beyond the fact that it agreed with the then-consensus of "perqels bad!!!1!1!!!", I've never been able to see any redeeming qualities to it. Asinine attempts at comedy, shallow analysis, wilfully misinterpreting the text. I've not watched it since the first time I saw it over a decade ago, but all it did was harden me in my stance that the prequels are actually not that bad, and the haters are just morons who hate anything different from exactly what they were already expected. (I'll admit, I have since softened on that stance and can recognise the many flaws in the prequels, but they're still a lot better than RLM gives them credit for, and their approach is certainly not good film criticism.)

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