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What is the relevance of being a US citizen exactly?
It’s an excellent case in point for why they don’t care at all about laws. They just want to hurt people.
The problem here is that it is unlawful and immoral, not whether it's a citizen or not. This implies that it would be fine if the person wasn't a citizen.
It's illegal and immoral, and the detention of a citizen proves that in black and white. That's why it's relevant.
I think we should have open borders. That said, not everyone does. Many more people have a problem with citizens being detained because the supposed focus of these raids is people in the country illegally (and supposedly people who are criminals).
Talking about how they're detaining citizens highlights that the actions are indiscriminate, and that really they want to target any brown people. It shows they don't care about the law. It's also telling people in a protected class, "hey, they can come for you too."
I don't need anymore evidence of that, but some people do. And when we stop calling it out it becomes de facto acceptable.
There's plenty of other headlines about illegal detaining that exclude the citizen label. This is just to highlight the fact that arrests are escalating.
No, it does not. Their current practices are absolutely unlawful and immoral but their agency exists to detain immigrants, so detaining citizens is even worse.
ICE stands for Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
ICE shouldn't be detaining US citizens. Really, this is the tip of the iceberg, they deny due process, abuse and sexually assault and kill detainees. Deport to places the detainees are likely to be killed. Let's not forget about them shooting a woman and leaving her to die, then lying about. Really i can go on, but there's hardly any good news about them lately
Their point was that due process isn't just for citizens. It applies to everyone.
Might as well've asked "What's being in Oregon got to do with it?" I mean, are you paying attention at all? 🙃
Because it highlights the fact that they are stopping and detaining people based on illegal racial profiling. The officers involved literally don't care about legal status.
But this was long established.
It feels like the point is simply to make "good citizens" scared because they didn't find it a problem as long as the ones being horribly treated were filthy immigrants.
But it confirms the idea that whether the victim is a "citizen" or not is an important point, implying that torturing people is fine as long as they don't have the right papers. I cannot really accept something like that.
If you replace "deports" by "shoots in the face", suddenly most people would think that being a citizen is irrelevant, but because this torture/deportation thing is less " obvious" people delude themselves into tolerating it, as long as they don't personally feel threatened.
I don't disagree with your viewpoint, but I'm not in support of what ICE is doing at all. There are MILLIONS of people in this country who steadfastly believe that anyone arrested by ICE is an illegal alien and, yes, many of them also believe that any force used against such people is justified. Arguing with them from a humanitarian standpoint gets you nowhere. Pointing at stories like this, where they will clearly snatch up anyone on the street they think looks like they don't belong here is at least some ammunition to engage those peoples' cognitive dissonance.
Because most of voters are ignorant and don't understand that due process applies regardless.
There isnt any ICE will and has killed anyone they want
Because a lot of people (most even) look at something bad happening and think "well that wouldn't happen to me, because of < copium reason >"
The more directly and often you can show them that they're not different from the victims, the more they will care
To pay taxes so the rich don't have to.
Ignore the downvotes its mainly by "democrats" who support the goal of ICE and how it operated under Biden and Obama just oppose Trump and if the next president is a democrat who literally changes nothing about its work they will again forget all their activism and pretend its no longer a problem like they did after Trump's first term while Biden continued all his policies.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears"
You're bad at trolling. Like, literally everything in this post is screaming at you that it's the GOP and their lapdogs who are perpetuating this, and you just pull a fucking Ray Charles with the "I'll pretend I didn't see that" bullshit.
It's very much a bipartisan American oppression.
How do you come up with this shit?
Poor Critical Thinking Skills, in combination with the Dunning-Kruger Effect, exacerbated by the Conservative Propaganda Machine.
Very common among MAGAs, universal actually.
Mountains of evidence and history.
And the inability to properly analyze information, due to poor Critical Thinking Skills, in combination with the Dunning-Kruger Effect, exacerbated by the Conservative Propaganda Machine.