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[โ€“] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Climate change will kill q huge part of the world population within the next 50 years and we've known about it being a thing for over a hundred years and yes nobody could be arsed to stop it.

And stop it was literally what they could do. Cars could have gone for electric much sooner. Public transportation should have been much, much bigger. Bicycle first cities

So much that could have been done but wasn't done because that would not make a select view anti social rich

Soon most of us will die from climate change effects

[โ€“] FatVegan@leminal.space 3 points 1 week ago

Humans as a whole can't be ask to do even the smallest changes. What if you ate less meat? I'LL EAT ONLY MEAT NOW.

[โ€“] sping@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You think electric cars are some sort of solution? They are part of the problem, not the solution. Making things worse but not quite as quickly is not making things better.

Truth is we could never stop it without radical global abolition of high energy activities. That's impossible given the short term gains of breaking ranks and the unpopularity of that level of denial. We didn't have to destroy ourselves as quickly, but the path was set when we had the industrial revolution.

[โ€“] Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Are electric cars a net improvement?
I've heard that they are, because electricity can ve produced more efficiently and pollution can be better handled than individual car exhausts

[โ€“] sping@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That's less bad, that's not fixing anything. There is no universe when using energy to move 1.5-3 tonne private vehicles around for transportation is sustainable. I've heard numbers typically in the 40-60% region for the lifetime energy use of electric vs ICE. That is not fixing any problem, that's making the problem worse less quickly.

[โ€“] Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Less bad is good, right?

Obviously, stuff like better public transportation will be good
Electric buses, trains etc

Have been hearing about China's solar adoption and them looking into thorium reactors.
My country, India, seems to be looking more into solar too.

I think it's a correct direction. Though, the pace needs to be a bit faster

[โ€“] sping@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Less bad is good, right?

Is it? If a serial rapist goes from 10 rapes a month to 5, have they done a good thing?

(and obviously, driving a car is not comparable to rape - just illustrating that less of a bad thing is not a good thing)

[โ€“] Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 5 days ago

Less bad is good there too

And as you said, not a good comparison.

Pollution going beyond the capacity of our environment is the issue, right? Every decent improvement is a good thing there. Not that we should stay silent with that, but we should be cheering for improvements and encouraging them.