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[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It’s about perspective. People making 30k don’t own homes and don’t have car payments most likely. People making 100k are paying mortgages which cuts their pay by about 1/3 and then a car payments takes another chunk. Not to mention healthcare or car insurance.

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

People making 30k have cars and rent and healthcare expenses. Fuck off.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You’re misunderstanding what I’m saying. I’m not saying they don’t have those expenses. I’m saying the cost of those things at higher incomes is more.

Not sure what stage of life you’re in but I’ve been on both sides. I’ve lived off 28k and im fortunate enough now to make 100k. You can try to say both incomes have the same expenses but that is misleading. At 28k I was driving a shitty 98 Honda accord that got stolen several times because all you needed to start it was a screwdriver. I couldn’t afford rent solo so I had to split it with someone. The weeks I paid rent I had to skip meals to make ends meet. I opted out of health insurance at my job because I couldn’t afford to take a $50 pay cut every check.

At 100k I can afford my mortgage, my car payment that I need because it’s an suv that fits my whole family. Health insurance for a family etc. however it is tight and I can’t afford any other luxuries like vacations or going out to nice dinners for anniversaries and stuff.

So yes it’s tough on both sides of the spectrum but don’t sit there all high and mighty and tell me to fuck off like I haven’t been on both sides. The other side to this is people at lower incomes LOVE to tell people making more than them that if they had X amount more they would be set but that’s just not true. All of us need to accept that our government is screwing us over and robbing us all of basic necessities. And before you say it yes vacation with your family is a NECESSITY. Time off work is a NECESSITY. Stop buying into the bullshit that we don’t need those things. Life is more than work and sleep.

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 2 points 4 months ago

I understand completely. You see a difference between someone making the lower end and I don’t see any difference.

I’m not the one buying into the bullshit.

If a person does not have the ability to stop working entirely and live a modest but entertaining life, they are in the same boat as the rest of us. I think this is one of those rare situations in which it is kind of black-and-white. You either have to work or you don’t have to work.

That’s why they call it the working class!

Everyone in the working class is in the same class. Let’s not insult each other by nitpicking a few bucks here and there, or even entertaining that there could possibly be a difference just to win an argument online.

[–] OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Let's cut through the bullshit. They're trying to equate their six figure salary to 30k. They're trying to leverage social media to validate their mental gymnastics.

It happens far too often. Especially on reddit. Whether they get affirmations or refutations they use either response to further cement their position. They love nothing more than to have some poor to try to refute them so they can be condescending to the lowly poors about how financially illiterate they are. And it gives them an opening to further contort their argument out loud about how they make so much money yet are as poor as those with the lowest income. In other words it's out of touch rich people shit.

This kind of comment chain happens so much it's basically scripted.

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes, your comment sounds scripted. There is a big difference between 999k and 100k, yet both are 6 figures.

People like you just make the lower 99% fight amongst themselves by crying about how one person should shut the fuck up because they can actually pay for basic necessities—yet not much else.

Know the enemy, bud. It’s not your neighbor.

[–] OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You're not my neighbor. And you just did exactly what I called you out for. Like I said, scripted responses. I'm sure you felt smug about it. Btw 30k isn't 100k. See how that works? Or can you not handle someone trying to tell you something up on that high horse.

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 2 points 4 months ago

Another “scripted response” to create a divide between the working class. If you have to work to live, then you are exactly the same as everyone else who has to work to live.

Are you not able to handle someone telling you that the only enemy is the ruling class? Does that make you upset because you know there’s nothing you can do about that? Does the working class seem like an easier target to you and that’s how you get your dopamine?

I’m happy your life is where it’s at, it’s exactly what you deserve.