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TL;DR: Valve launched the Steam Frame VR headset with an Arm-based Snapdragon chip, aiming to run Half-Life: Alyx natively and streamed from PC. The new hardware features a "Frame Verified" status for optimized games, while rumors suggest two upcoming Half-Life titles supporting PC and VR cooperative play.

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[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 105 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

If the price for their device isn't too high, I might actually finally own a VR headset.

There's no way I'd ever buy something from Meta. All the other devices are way too expensive and compliated to set up. This new Valve Frame is going to be perfect.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 12 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

My guess is around $1,000 USD

[–] HereIAm@lemmy.world 47 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

They haven't said the final price, but they've said it will be cheaper than the index, so definitely the under $1000.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 28 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

The Index was $1,000.

If we’re playing by The Price is Right rules, I’ll guess $899.

[–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago

I would like to buy a vowel.

Oops Wrong Bob.

[–] ninth_plane@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

If we’re playing by The Price is Right rules, I’ll guess $899.

I'll guess $900.

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 3 weeks ago

Ooh, it was 899.99, so close, but you went over, sorry! Better luck next time @ninth_plane@lemmy.world

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 9 points 4 weeks ago

but they’ve said it will be cheaper than the index

I missed this - that would be lovely

[–] iLStrix@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I thought they said they are aiming to at least not be more expensive than the Index? So 1000 USD might still be in the ball range, but it might very likely be less expensive.

[–] Cavemanfreak@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Seeing as the Quest is their main competitor it'll have to be less expensive if it's to gain any traction.

[–] SpacetimeMachine@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Not necessarily. The quest is a very closed ecosystem. Steam frame being far more open is a huge selling point for them and might attract enough enthusiasts.

[–] Gigasser@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

I wonder if they'll have a package with base stations? I know it doesn't need it, but it might make for a better experience for those who do want it.

[–] purplemonkeymad@programming.dev 5 points 4 weeks ago

The ltt vid said that valve were not going to produce the index hardware anymore. So probably not. But they were open to someone else taking on the index if they wanted.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

afaik the steamframe doesn't have the IR detectors required to work with lighthouse based tracking.

trying to use both (steamframe optical track and lighthouse) would be.... interesting

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 3 weeks ago

why would it be better than inside out?

[–] PhAzE@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

Which is ridiculous for canadians. We're talking $1300-1500 cdn

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 3 weeks ago

If the pricing was going to be what we want, they'd have straight up told us it.

[–] Acidbath@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I reeeeaaaally hope they do something like how microsoft and playstation purposefully sell their consoles at a loss ( I think it was 360 and ps3 ). One can dream.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

No. They've told LTT and Gamers Nexus that these will not be loss leaders. They want to make hardware sustainable for themselves

[–] addie@feddit.uk 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah. You can sell 'pure consoles' at a loss and make it up with games sales. This is basically a mini PC that you could reinstall the OS and use for any purpose. Selling it at a loss would be crazy.

[–] Acidbath@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

100000% it would be crazy. If I remember correctly, the xbox one and ps4 weren't really sold as loss leaders, that or they were priced closer to their manufacturing cost.

I have been thinking, I don't think it really matters to them what the consumer does with their machine. I mean, at the end of the day, you're still gonna be buying steam games simply for the service.

[–] Cybersteel@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Imagine the loss when the US government decides to buy a bunch of em PS3s for their supercomputer —

[–] Acidbath@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

tbh that was a cool airforce moment. Idk about current day, I doubt anyone would buy a shit ton of steam machines just to make a hpc cluster. BUT it would be cool af :]

[–] Acidbath@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

tbh I didn't know there was a term for this lol. No matter what price they decide on, I do hope to pick one up.

[–] dodos@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

Its possible, iirc steam deck was sold at a loss of $150 per unit.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net -3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

It's probably going to cost about the same as the Index did

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca -2 points 4 weeks ago

About three fiddy?