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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 76 points 1 day ago (5 children)

r/gaming is shit. Bunch of sycophants all soft criticizing games like a review magazine afraid of offending the makers while talking about their playthrough. Go figure. Heaven help you if you have an actual opinion outside of the box, or don’t know some bit of terminology or lore about a game that is “common knowledge”.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Bunch of sycophants all soft criticizing games like a review magazine afraid of offending the makers while talking about their playthrough.

Almost as though its a heavily astroturfed community and many of the accounts are exactly this.

Heaven help you if you have an actual opinion outside of the box

That's just social media in a nutshell. You're either a loyal footsoldier or a radical insurgent. But you need to find your opposing faction and do battle with them. And then, if you get too confrontational, the Mods/Admins need to ban you for doing exactly what the site incentivizes.

[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I was hated on Reddit for not hating the main character of Horizon Forbidden West. God forbid someone enjoys a woman speaking.

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I never understood the hate for Aloy. She was at worst bland with a pretty heavy helping of "I'm better at everything because I'm the main character", but she's hardly alone in that, and it doesn't usually attract that much ire.

I really didn't understand the complaints that she was unattractive or even outright ugly.

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago

She doesn't have massive tits and dresses like you'd expect someone surviving in a robot dinosaur apocalypse to dress. So, not porn/isn't sexy, therefore game bad.

It boggles my mind that people fucking care. It's not like porn isn't freely available on the Internet, and porn of those characters specifically isn't easy to find. But if you've seen some of the criticism coming from that crowd about Ghost of Yotei it'll make sense.

What's sad is Yotei has plenty of faults they could criticize instead. But they can't see past women as purely an object for sex so here we are.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Freckles AND a jawline? Unplayable.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

Second hand too busy to properly operate the controls eh?
I get it, I get it.

That fits pretty much every game where you control a main character. MCs rarely have a suitable explanation for why they're so special beyond the rule of cool. Why can Gordon Freeman take out teams of special ops? Because he's the MC. He's a pretty bland character that doesn't say anything, but he's loved by millions.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The degree to which people will idolize God of War's Kratos and shit all over Horizon's Aloy is crazy, given how these are functionally the same character.

I really didn’t understand the complaints that she was unattractive or even outright ugly.

She didn't look like the silhouette on a truck's mudflaps. So she's hideous by default. But then nobody seems to qualify as "hot enough" anymore. Sidney Sweeny isn't hot enough. Taylor Swift isn't hot enough. Ciri from the Witcher isn't hot enough. Freya Allan from the TV Show of the Witcher isn't hot enough. Fucking Jessica Rabbit isn't hot enough.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pretty sure Horizon Forbidden Dawn was well liked, despite having a woman speaking, but Horizon Forbidden West was hated on for changing the design of her.

[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They didn't really change the design as much as she was just not a teenager anymore..

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

They changed her design to fit some arbitrary anti-beauty standard. I don't find the change egregious, but it's obvious why it was done.

[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip -2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Yea, nah, she's beautiful in forbidden west, idk what kind of unrealistic beauty standards you expect.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

I don't. I just recognise there's a change and people didn't like it. Nobody had issues with a woman being the main protagonist.

Don't forget the lack of accountability among mods in reddit.

They can remove whatever they want, and we wouldn't even know it was there. This alone causes people to self-censor.

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was banned from r/gaming for daring to go against that grain, and as I understand that is typical. It was about a game I liked too , just wished they had taken a few risks. I think it was Breakpoint. I had some very harsh things to say about the Ubisoft formula and how much better that game could have been if they had embraced the sneaky techie gameplay instead of the looter shooter bullshit they'd done instead. What's funny to me is that shortly after release they updated the game to get rid of the looter shooter bullshit. So I clearly wasn't alone.

That sucks.

I left myself after being shouted down over criticizing a game for restricting player kits. The game was more fun without the restrictions, but fuck me for wanting more freedom in player classes.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That's basically all large fandom/hobby subs now, in my experience.

And yeah, don't forget the shallow memes or fear of arbitrary banning.

[–] Pauce@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

Yeah if they hit critical mass the quality drops significantly. I've bookmark a handful of my niche subs that haven't hit that point yet but I saw it all the time over the years on there. Even something as straight forward as a liminal space, not as a term but there is a lot of writings on the topic, subreddit just turns into everybody posting pictures of there closets and and any old building.