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This guy wants you to throw your vote away.
They mainly just want you to vote more than once every 4 years
please provide evidence
so edgy
This was made in like 1994
This guy wants you to keep doing the same useless thing, already obvious and ridiculed 150 years ago
Just commenting here so it's high up enough to see: this guy is an admitted accelerationist. Position invalidated. Thanks.
LOL whatever clown, I'm sure everyone needs to hear about your bombshell discovery
Any vote in the oligarchy is a vote thrown away.
You should read more theory
Lenin is talking about participating in voting for our own candidates and government, NOT for supporting the bourgeoisie.
We're still in the pretty heavy wake of McCarthyism, we're not at "run our own candidates on the general ballot" yet, we're at "vote lesser evil on the general ballot while we run our own candidates locally and try to win primaries".
Karl Marx on liberal 'lesser evil'
Yeah and I think 1) that was 175 years ago 2) that while a brilliant thinker on the subject of structures and inevitabilities, Marx was pretty naïve when it came to implementation.
How dare you be reasonable and actually try and solve problems instead of just complaining and demonizing anyone who's not left enough!
They did no such thing. They used a typical liberal approach by finding something that they think aligns with their ideology and claims 'gotcha'
Lenin's push for participation in elections was due to the Duma which kept getting dissolved by the Czar for becoming increasingly anti monarchy. Between 1906 and 1917 several had been dissolved due to growing constitutional monarchy among the peasants.
Without historical context it sounds like lenin advocated participating in all bourgeoisie elections.
Uh, no. The context is very clear, he offers it himself. He's talking about movements in other countries, where class consciousness isn't sufficient for more direct alternatives, specifically Germany. He didn't mention the Czar or the Duma once in this text.
You should really just read it, it's pretty short.
Those supporting the oligarchy are the haters of democracy
LOL american doesn't know better and thinks that is democracy.
This guy wants you to throw your vote away.
if industrystandard and anticolonial are against me, I know I’m doing something right. Let’s get tokenboomer and givesomefucks and universalmonkey here too.
That's evidence you are a mindless tool for the people causing our problems
And this comment is evidence you don't understand anything about anything
If recent history is any indicator of how much Democrats are willing to fight for what's right, I have better things to do with my fucking time than vote. I'm done with them.
If slightly less but still very much recent history is any indicator, that attitude is exactly what got us into this shit in the first place. One group isn't doing what's right, so let's just hand victory to the group that pledges to do as much evil as they think they can get away with. Too many people with better things to do with their fucking time than keep a felon pedophile rapist wannabe-Mussolini conman out of office, I guess. Glad you got all the better things done though, with your fucking time.
If the last 24 hours is any indicator, the democratic party is cowardly, weak, spineless, and ineffectual and I refuse to waste another nanosecond on them.
If neither side is capable of, in your own words, "doing what's right", why waste time on either of them?
I think the main point is that the Democrats are all those things, and yet still more effective than you at pushing the country left, so people support them because it's better than supporting Republicans
Because, as I already (rather pointedly, I thought) said, one party isn't not doing "what's right," (Which are your words, actually. I was quoting you.) it is actively and aggressively doing what's very, very wrong. If those two are equivalent to you, then by all means don't vote, as you might just be doing the rest of us a favor.
At least vote in the primaries
You're absolutely right. We wouldn't be in this mess if everyone who complains about the Dems had voted in the primaries.