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Democrats ended the shutdown because it was impeding the attack on Venezuela and military operations generally, because troops were about to go unpaid. It's the best explanation for their seeming "cowardice" or "incompetence." I've seen speculation that it's about preserving the filibuster to hamstring a future democratic president (lol), and that might be a factor, but foreign policy and American militarism is likely at least as important and probably much more so. It's so obvious that I'm ashamed of myself for not thinking of it earlier.

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[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

could be.. but I'd think if that were the case there would've been more than just 8 democrats

[–] HarryLime@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why? They have as many as they need. There probably are other democrats who agree but still want to cover their ass.

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

i'd assume the ass covering piece would come with "i helped feed the military families during a time of need" but maybe that's not how they imagine things will be spun.. i dunno

[–] john_brown@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This shutdown was the first "fight" the DNC has done in Trump's second term and the base was lapping it up, I don't think they can sell it as a win

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 5 points 2 months ago

They can't call it a win because they essentially gave the Republicans everything they asked for

[–] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

This is how Tim Kaine’s office is trying to spin it, it’s not working at all

[–] Chana@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They're just 8 Joe Liebermans

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

henry wallace was the last good dem VP, Gore was the last one who didn't turn out to be completely abhorrent.