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With the recent decisions made by the supreme court, is the United states unsafe enough to trans people for us seek asylum elsewhere? I think these decisions are the government officially saying they do not acknowledge us for who we are. Is it time to start looking to seek asylum?

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[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

> making false claims that Americans can go anywhere and stay

> thinking trans people would be seeking asylum in Russia

> account is new

you sure you're not some kind of bot?

[–] mistermodal@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

reading is not your strong suit, I see. you ignored my clarification, and "family values" overtly refers to the bigoted laws. missing that kind of basic meaning in my words is what a bot would actually do, not make (apparently unwarranted) assumptions about the ability of the reader to understand it. Russia was pointed out because you can literally just throw money at them, and it's something affluent nerds would never do because of their nationalism. if you're going to be so rude I'm going to block you

something tells me, having already done it, I am more serious about getting out of the USA than you, someone who is moaning abt needing "asylum" to do it. hurry up, the financial system is rigged to collapse within years. Im too tired to explain the rest but i tried to politely explain you're shooting yourself in the foot by not already leaving, and nobody is giving stupid americans asylum because they elected someone like Bush again

[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I'm sorry, I meant my comment mostly in jest (and somewhat bewilderment), I didn't mean to come across as rude 🤐

If your point is that Americans are in a stronger position to enter a foreign country and stay there by various means like getting sponsored by an employer or on a student visa, that seems clear enough - that's true even if just on the basis that Americans tend to have more money, assets in US dollars, and potentially better opportunities to get sought-after education in the U.S. that would make them skilled laborers in other parts of the world.

My point was just to clarify that getting that legal basis of staying in the foreign country (which is the point of the asylum claim) is not trivial even if it is easier for Americans relative to other nationalities. There are trans people in detention camps in Europe because they declared asylum and are being prepared for deportation back to the U.S. - not everyone is a skilled laborer or eligible to be a student (let alone successful in pursuing those opportunities).

And most of the trans population does not have passports, let alone the financial means to leave the country. Fleeing the country is a solution for a privileged minority. Most of us can't even leave the oppressive states we live in and move to more progressive states with laws that protect trans folks.

Also, the U.S. is still one of the best places in the world to be trans - we have better access to trans healthcare and rights than most of the rest of the world, and even the rest of the West. The situation is deteriorating (as it is in most of the rest of the world), but they did not even succeed in passing a trans athlete ban through Congress, let alone criminalization of being trans or revocation of care. Nothing like the laws that were on the books in the 1970s that outright banned "cross-dressing" have been passed or enforced.