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[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 59 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Disable them by removing them yourself.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 34 points 4 months ago (2 children)

See the problem there is that it doesn't scale. You can only take down so many cameras.

Now if you convince the local scrappers that the things are full of copper...

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Well, don’t sell yourself short—one camera per person destroys them all. It’s gotta start somewhere.

I’m sure those cameras would probably resell somewhere. Sell them back to flock 🙃

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sure. If all you can do is steal one camera, then steal one camera.

But...

Steal one camera, stop surveillance for a day. But teach a cracky to steal cameras for cash, stop surveillance for a generation.

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 6 points 4 months ago

Made me lol, too!

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

As I was driving around today, I was thinking how an organized trend to destroy or disable them would make them economically inefficient very quickly.

I'm no maniac driver, but I hate having to drive around paranoid that I'm going to get a ticket for going 5 mph too fast.

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 1 points 4 months ago

Well, those might not even be flock camera! But they definitely scan your plate and keep that data forever.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 months ago

"Genious Gray Hat creates open-source software to repurpose second-hand flock cameras for personal use; Flock cameras start flooding Craigslist and eBay"

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Problem is that many are clustered and in high-traffic areas. There's a triplet of them in one area near my neighborhood, covering entrance and exit of said area, so it's impossible to avoid detection.

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 13 points 4 months ago (15 children)

Remove the devices. Like, go up to it and destroy it.

Obviously, wear a mask and common clothing

[–] SolacefromSilence@fedia.io 8 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I bet they'd search for cell location records, in order to find who damaged the cameras. I hear that even turning your phone off won't help. Surely they'll be caught unless someone also leaves their phone at home.

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 24 points 4 months ago

Well, don’t commit crimes with person items on your body of any kind.

[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 20 points 4 months ago

You should always leave your phone at home for that kind of thing. The same goes for protests.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)
  • leave your phone at home
  • instead of destroying it, wrap it in duct tape or something like that, because afaik obstructing a camera owned by a private company which happens to be placed on public property is not illegal
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

A paintball gun is a good option

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Or just come up to it outside of it’s FOV and wrap that fucker up

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 months ago

That doesn't help when there are more than one.

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I addressed that already - there are three of them within 100ft of each other, and two of them are on the same post.

Here's a pic:

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

White truck + high viz vest. Take the whole pole from the bottom.

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I work in manufacturing and have multiple hardhats and hi-vis vests available to take 😂

I just need a white truck with a bogus govt plate now... Make sure to slap a big ol' Trump sticker on it for maximum stealth. Maybe borrow my sister's work truck... Pretty generic-looking white Dodge.

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You don't need a government plate. No one questions a plain white truck. You could use a plate switcher or some retro reflective tape or magnet but like, smoke a cigarette and look unhappy to be working, no one will look twice.

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

The cameras capture plate data, that's the issue. And along those lines - I don't know how long the retention period is for our particular area. They just started appearing.

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago

See the Ben jordann video on thwarting that with stickers or hacking them like the Louvre.

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[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago

The upside is some are installed illegally and have no legal recourse just littering their shit on public land.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 4 months ago

i suspect some of them are the newly installed speed cameras in low-traffic areas. yea its rather suspicious to have one where there is almost no pedestrians or rarley any traffic to justify have a speed limit camera.

[–] SynAcker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I wonder if a laser of some sort could mess up the camera sensors

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Lasers are absolutely capable of this. A 1-watt laser could probably do it and, last time I checked, you can order 44-watt lasers online.

[–] rklm@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

A 1w laser will permanently blind you instantly. You can buy/build them very cheaply and easily, but a class 4 laser isn't a toy.

For perspective, the regular red laser pointers from your local store are like 5mW at most.

A 44w laser is probably an IR fiber laser used for tattoo removal or some industrial application. You can get them cheap, but they are not handheld. Also lasers that powerful tend to be pulsed.

Nichia makes 5w+ 445nm diodes that are small enough to fit in a flashlight

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I'm familiar. The 44W lasers I mentioned are blue diode lasers from consumer-grade laser cutters/engravers. They actually consist of multiple diodes with some optics that combine all the beams into a pretty small kerf. Last time I checked I was only able to find IR diode lasers up to 2W. I'm hoping to get my hands on an IR diode laser some day that I can stick on my CNC mill and make it a laser cutter as well but realistically those will have to be 2 separate devices. An IR diode laser would be a lot more stealthy for taking out Flock cameras...

Somewhere I have a 1W blue handheld laser that I bought in college and used to light blunts with. Wearing laser shades, of course.

At a place I worked at for a little while they had 16kW fiber lasers that could cut through steel like butter. It was magical.

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago

May I introduce you to Styropyro

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 months ago

So you're saying my 5W laser could work? On it.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wondering if something like this would be enough?

Class IIIA Laser Output is <5mW

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Doubt it, <5mW is a laser pointer and I don't think is powerful enough to damage an eye.

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 2 points 4 months ago

Maybe something like a small battery powered laser engraver could zigzag across the lens and eventually damage the sensor.

However, to get that power from a distance would be large and prohibitively expensive for most people.

Good thinking though… a damaged sensor might be difficult to diagnose at first, leading to a longer replacement period.

Looked into that, and I wonder if the damage is significant or just a couple of dead pixels

Problem is that you are on camera, not really problem, just be careful