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The census is a tallying of the people that live in the country. Legal or not, immigrants do live here and should be counted. This argument is dumb on so many levels.
Jim Banks is dumb on so many levels.
Isn't that a prerequisite for being a republican at this point?
There are a small portion of smart Republicans who are just evil and get the stupid ones to go along with them. See Project 2025 for an example.
Yeahhhhhh idk man. I just don't think it's smart to support the group of people spurring on the destruction of the very environment that they require to survive. Both in a global warming sense as well as a general societal sense. Absurd unethical greed has worked a couple of times in history, but it backfires really frequently.
I think the smarter tactic would be to simply keep the machine running the same way it has been, while giving fractions of your wealth to the poor as a pittance. That way you can still live an absurdly privileged life and not have to worry about being shot in the street in NYC.
That's why you're not a part of the Heritage Foundation.
They preferentially select for Evil first, but being both evil and dumb on so many levels is definitely how to get ahead in the organization.
And Jim Banks isn't even the dumbest Republican in the Senate. That honor goes to Tommy Tuberville, hands down.
Only surpassed by those that vote for him and those that don't bother voting against him.
They've been trying to normalize the idea that it only counts citizens for a couple of decades now.
It certainly is strange that the "slavery wasn't that bad" party is against non citizens being counted now.
Electoral college is why people care
Do they not live in those states?
Which includes quite a few red states btw. It's hardly a partisan advantage... But if Texas and Florida wants to lose some seats...
https://brilliantmaps.com/number-of-unauthorized-illegal-immigrants-by-us-state/
I'm not saying right or wrong, but it could impact who gets elected. Illegal immigrants don't need to vote directly to impact elections due to the electoral college.
Yeah, I feel like you could easily I clude numbers for citizen and non-citizen. I don't think non-citizen should affect the number of electorates. I do think it's an important consideration for that state's elected officials, because the people do exist.
Too fucking bad for the whiners because the Constitution straight up doesn't care. Probably because they'd have thought we were being weird fuckheads on border control.
All voting rights addressed by the Constitution are amendments prohibiting various forms of discrimination. You don't even technically have to be a citizen to vote per Constitutional law, that's just a restriction agreed upon by all state laws.
Fundamentally, I'm not sure why being a citizen, or even legal status, should matter when it comes to voting. When you consider that a US citizen can move to a new state/local jurisdiction and immediately vote in those elections with just proof of residency in that jurisdiction, then it seems like the proof of residency is what's really important in determining whether you can vote in a given election.