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[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 116 points 5 days ago (4 children)

JFC don't. We don't even want to hear you. I would rather have AOC as a choice over you.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 34 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

AOC would be a stellar choice IMO, but 90% of the 1% would probably be against her, and that's about half of all the money in USA.
Social democracies in Scandinavia work DESPITE being undermined by the rich, so the political shrewdness and tenacity that would be required of her is insane. She would need a lot of backup from the population, and the population will need patience.

Because rebuilding the institutions in USA to their former standard is already a lot of work, but rebuilding them to the standard of a proper social democracy is something USA has never seen before, and will be very difficult.
For starters it requires USA to become an actual democracy instead of the dysfunctional democracy that USA many Americans praise as divine and sent from heaven. A multi party system is a must for true democracy, and until USA has at least 8 parties represented in congress, it is not really a functioning democracy at all.

[–] SailorFuzz@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I say this as someone who loves AOC and what she does.....

If AOC runs, she will lose.

That's just the state of the nation right now. The only thing America hates more than women is a progressive. The culture of the country right now is way too volatile. The country just isn't ready for a female president. Not because a woman can't do it... but because the country is way too far gone with sexism and misogyny.

It was a long shot when Hillary ran, it was long shot when Kamala ran. If you think it's not a long shot now after the MAGA crowd has been systematically destroying everything..... and you want to run a Berniecrat woman? At this time? In this country?

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I think you are right, and I also think it would be better for USA to "normalize" and find its center first.
Then AOC will have better chances of actually accomplishing something.

Now we can only hope (as a foreigner) that USA will normalize, and not become a dictatorship.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Hey, keep away from AOC, we need her to take over Chuck's Senate seat. The rest of you can have her after a term or three, she'll still be plenty young enough to run, and maybe by then the country will be ready to vote for a woman for President....

[–] iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

From an outsider perspective, I think unless you get AOC now there's not going to be much of a country left for another round sometime later... Bernie has spent his whole life with "maybe on the next one". It will never be on the next one.

[–] StaticFalconar@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

How about they both run in the primaries in a democratic process?

Age Of Cowtron?

[–] 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

you thought kamala was bad? AOC would TANNKKK the dems

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I hate how true this is. She's popular with Millennials but that's about it. The vast majority of democrat voters prefer conservative establishment candidates, and they think she's too extreme.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

Where is this bullshit coming from? Conservative establishment candidates have been what keeps losing, if they're not already an incumbent.