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Hypothesis: Insufficient moderation tools lead to instance protectionism, which leads to a decline in the overall discussion quality on Lemmy (lemmy.world)

submitted 9 months ago by blue_berry@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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[-] RickRussell_CA@lemmy.world 57 points 9 months ago

"Decline in overall quality" is a subjective metric, though. Does defederation reduce participation? Certainly.

But ya know, there's a reason people defederate certain instances -- usually because those instances have attracted people who are disruptive to discussion on other instances.

It's really been no problem at all for me to keep a foot in lemmy.world, kbin.social, lemmy.ml, and beehaw.org. And a few other instances that appeal to more niche audiences.

And if I really feel like discussion on an instance is offering something and I'm missing out, I can always get an account there.

Not that I'm arguing against better moderation tools, of course. By all means, lemmy devs should prioritize those as soon as scaling/stability issues are dealt with.

[+] Scew@lemmy.world -17 points 9 months ago

Yep, when I get sick of the rhetoric here I just jump over to hexbear where they make fun of the people I tend to disagree with frequently here. ^.^ I think the best moderation tools would be to attempt to decentralize it so the petty tyrants the role seems to attract can't abuse their authority to censor opinions they don't agree with regardless of whether or not the content actually conflicts with the rules.

[-] ech@lemm.ee 12 points 9 months ago

Sounds like you'd like it better over there full-time.

[-] RickRussell_CA@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

Or... just let people live with their multiple personalities. It's not like people didn't have alt accounts on Reddit specifically so they could talk about stuff in a way that wouldn't reflect on their primary account.

As long as people behave appropriately on an instance, it's nobody else's business what they do on other instances with different accounts.

[-] ech@lemm.ee -2 points 9 months ago

I never said they couldn't? Just making an observation about what their declared preferences suggest.

Also, they're the ones advocating for all-inclusive access. Personally I think everything works well enough as-is. If a user gets annoyed or tired of an instance, they can quite easily hop to another. No need to restrict the abilities of admins just because wants to browse chapotraphouse on their main.

[-] RickRussell_CA@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

you’d like it better over there full-time

The passive-aggressive version of "don't let the door hit your ass on the way out".

[-] ech@lemm.ee -2 points 9 months ago

And? That's still not saying anything about people with more than one account.

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

Meh happy to block another hb going by another name. Ez win

[-] Scew@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

He would have never guessed that I was at lemmy.world first. lol, probably would have broke his brainwashing to acknowledge another user as a human being he would have to consider the opinion of. Just pretend everyone's out to get you for reasons other people made up for you. Back to sleep little one.

[-] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 months ago

Turns out people that want to cause trouble will just make new accounts on your instance if you defederate from theirs.

[-] Scew@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

No need to waste energy making a real point then, lol people here just make shit up and then posture as if it makes them right somehow. Look, I'm doing it! No need to actually have any basis for my opinion that no one asked for! :D damn Armok: God of Blood HOW DID I NOT THINK OF THIS BEFORE!?! Lol wait, accidentally asked you to think critically. lol. My bad, carry on.