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I agree with queermunist and her comment, and I also agree with Carl's reply to her. I'd much rather talk about it in real time on a faster medium than hb comments since this is a lot, but I'll do my best responding:
Fair point, I don't get the impression that that's necessarily what happened but that's my own read.
It's a big mistep imo but I doubt that he thinks allowing Zionists to work in sanitation per this example will put the oppressed or human life in danger. His campaign is really focused on local issues and local politics and pretty much just that, so while this is a big blind spot, it would be a false equivalence to assume he doesn't care about the marginalized when the marginalized are the people his campaign is most focused on protecting. Just locally. Which again, I don't agree with.
Similar to my point before, I think he can take a principled stance on other issues and particularly those where he has power because that seems to be he's been doing. The big exception to this is softening his stance on the NYPD which I think is a tactical one but also disappoints me to see.
Again similar, which I think it kinda hinting at the source of our misunderstanding. I said I think she cares, I also said that caring isn't enough. You can care about someone and still not do right by them. Humans are flawed. We fuck up, we we betray those we care for, we lose hope and revolutionary optimism, and in many cases just have a flawed understanding.
Keeping Libraries well funded, increasing healthcare availability and affordability, protecting gender affirming care, expanding childcare, funding education, etc. All of these would help a lot. If you want an actual revolution, you're gonna need literate and reasonably healthy comrades.
I agree with Carl in the comment above here, this is just accelerationism. I do believe the US left would be in a much better place today if Bernie had been elected despite all his flaws. And I'll happily drop every vote for a socdem the second that PSL has alternatives in these races. Until them, I know what I need to do, and 99.99% of the year that involves organizing, and the other 0.01% I'd vote for Mamdani if I had the option.
This one hurts because it's true. But the alternatives are far from better and if anything worse as they will probably have zionists in much higher positions of power than Mamdani and are actually zionists themselves.
Yes this whole situation and country is fucked up. But that wasn't the Nazi party's whole thing. Their whole thing was being the genocidal maniacs. This would be more like voting for the SPD IF the KPD didn't exist at all, though it's far from a perfect analogy.
I don't believe he is fine with genocide, the Nazis didn't actually care about the German worker (actually reading this again wtf??? I'm actually mad at this characterization), and there is no candidate who will keep all Zionists out of public positions but I do hope Mamdani will keep them out of positions where they have a chance to act on their deranged ideology.
Sadly yes, this is where we're at. Hopefully you understand why I said what I said better now.