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Marine colonel who resigned because of Trump says personnel should question ‘illegal orders’
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I had an argument with someone on here a while back over this. They claimed that America couldn't ever go full on fascist because our military is taught to question illegal orders.....
Like a private who joined the army to get out of poverty is really going to have the legal understanding to question the constitutional grounds of his orders. People have no idea how the military works, or exactly how much control an officer or NCO has over their enlisted service men.
It's not an illogical position to take it's just naive. In the same way that military service members are supposed to disregard illegal orders, Congress is supposed to impeach a President who breaks the law or established codes of conduct.
It sounds good in theory but both ultimately rely on the integrity of the people in those positions. If they don't rise to the challenge then there isn't anything stopping the bad actors from doing what they want with impunity. We can hope it will be enough but it hasn't changed much so far. It seems like the people who could act know this and are colluding with the executive branch to test how far they can push things before we decide to go looking outside the system for solutions. I see no reason to believe that the military will respond any differently than Congress has.
Yeap, imo they've already done a test crossing of the Rubicon. When the military agreed to utilize active duty service members to transport prisoners from the US, it was a blatant disregard of their prohibition of policing on US soil.
It's all part of the American gun myth where they tell each other they could overthrow their government with their hunting rifles and the military won't just mortar their dreams away before they even saw it coming because they feel like the military will refuse to, for reasons they can't explain.
That way, they can justify their crazy lack of gun control and all the school children who get murdered due to it.
IMO, It's all interlinked.