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Maybe this is ignorant bc Islamophobia never went away or anything but it definitely feels like there was a real peak of Islamophobia during the Bush era and after Osama bin Laden was assasinated it sort of dropped off to lower levels. It’d come back at various times (eg Charlie Hebdo) and maybe I was in a bubble but I never heard “we should glass the Middle East” told as a half joke half actual position after 2011 until the recent genocide in Gaza. But it’s really been feeling like the Bush era recently. The “why can’t I criticize the religion stuck in the Middle Ages” from critics of religion, like the new atheists back in the day, the (actual) cancel culture. Idk i doubt im the first to notice this but just something I was thinking of today.

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[–] CommunistCuddlefish@hexbear.net 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sort of, but the "lower levels" were still very high. Maybe "glass" wasn't the word, but there was plenty of dehumanization and demonization of Iranis, Palestinians, Somalis, Syrians, for example.

Here's how I think of it: westerners' fear and hatred of Muslims, brown and black people, middle easterners, west Asians, MENA, however you want to describe these groups as, was always there. It would get louder whenever something happened that reminded westerners that people in these groups etc exist, and quieter when they could ignore us. Refugees going to Europe fleeing NATO foreign policy in the 2010 made islamophobia levels appear higher in Europe than 9/11 did because the Euros weren't as directly involved.

[–] rufuscrispo@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

louder whenever something happened that reminded westerners that people in these groups etc exist, and quieter when they could ignore us.

undeniably true, and it was there prior to the bush years. part of it is pure cope leftover from the supposed all-powerful west getting its shit rocked by opec, the deposing of the shah, and the so-called hostage crisis in the last quarter of the 20th century. to see the same thing in miniature, look how the usa treats haiti.