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[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 months ago

I'm well aware, DeepSeek took an innovative approach using mixture of agents and reinforcement learning to drastically reduce the cost of running models. They're continuing to push the envelope incidentally, and got the best paper at ACL just a few months ago.

The claim was that DeepSeek used the existing API for ChatGPT to do the initial tuning of the weights of their model. That's entirely possible. And that's the whole irony which makes the meme funny. OpenAI has some EULA on how you're allowed to use the API, and they claim DeepSeek violated that. However, they themselves have never had a problem siphoning data from any source they could find without any regard for permissions from the authors.

Obviously, OpenAI is terrified of DeepSeek because it undermines their whole business model. Everybody would prefer using an open model they can tune any way they like and run on premises without having to send their data to another company. So, OpenAI is very obviously smearing DeepSeek any way they can. It's just funny that the smears themselves expose their own hypocrisy.