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Portland cyclists strip down in pouring rain to protest ICE facility and Trump troop deployment
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Are you surprised we haven't focused to that when we are stuck on debating the effectiveness of actions you know don't work? They are purely symbolic and done chiefly to make people feel better about their powerlessness. That itself is harmful, because you are lying to people about a miracle cure for fascism called doing fuck all.
I already answered the question broadly of what would even make strategic inaction like boycotting capable of pressuring organizations or political figures, it's an organization that has real leverage politically, not an NGO that plaintively asks for better institutions or malicious ones to reform themselves. An organization that can apply pressure with the legitimacy of those demands. Demands alone are not impressive, and reminding everyone over and over what a good boy who follows the rules of protests and nonviolence and boycotting you are reinforces you have zero intention of being a threat to the people euthanizing your homeless population! You think that's going to manifest in delinking from the USA? We both get all of our goods from China one way or another. What the US is ripping you apart with now particularly, like the UK, is destroying public services, bringing in pvt equity and our infamous insurance companies. You cannot boycott your hiking rent and Perestroika. Think bigger.
That's correct, the difference is being aware that you are promoting inaction by framing a boycott as resistance against fascism. I am advocating for plotting an effective course of action rather than disorganized symbolic actions that make people feel good about themselves. You are advocating for following the boilerplate protest strategy that has been used to sabotage antiwar movements for decades.
Yep that's true, I'm getting these delightful batches of mentions about how liberal nonviolent strategies are going to stick it to the fascists, which make indistinguishable pleas for me to acknowledge the effectiveness of political irrelevance. Only boycotting is a step above stripping down in front of the Nazis and making a fool of yourself. If you don't see how these events are part of the same ideological bent you should probably check on what the people involved with them are saying. What is needed are strikes, at bare minimum. If you are wondering "well how am I supposed to strike?" you've got a question that will build a whole roadmap ahead of you.