this post was submitted on 13 Oct 2025
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I’m so tired of this rhetoric that hunting is antithetical to leftism and that keeping dogs for hunting (and hunting in general) is only accessible to the bourgeois and is also somehow antithetical to leftism.
If any of you chronically online, city-dwelling goofs actually took some time to get to know hunters, you’d learn a thing or two about the working class.
That's a lot of assumptions about someone made on a response specifically talking about hunting for sport isn't it?
I also find it a bit facetious to be speaking as if most hunting isn't done recreationally to kill animals for the sake of killing animals for fun, even in case of culling where most do it as part of hunting for sport and the fact it is useful is more of a beneficial secondary outcome to be used as an excuse often with great deal of jubilance.
As for the few people who actually hunt for subsistence especially due to lack of alternatives which is rare anywhere in most of the developed and indeed developing world or to otherwise guard livestock which is more common, their practical need to kill animals doesn't proactively justify anyone else killing animals for other reasons just because it happens to be same activity on most basic terms.
I made three assumptions: that the anti-hunting left are chronically online, that they’re largely city-dwellers, and that they’re goofs. So far I have yet to be proven wrong.
Listen yall, I hunt. I hunt alone and I hunt with people. Every person I hunt with is working class. Nearly every person I encounter while hunting is also working class. Most of the anti-hunting rhetoric I encounter seems largely anti-rural in nature, which to me seems antithetical to class solidarity.
Several breeds of hunting dogs were developed by and for the working class — hell the entire German breeding program was designed specifically for the working class hunter. The Russian Spaniel was developed specially to be a hunting dogs adapted to urban apartment life. The fucking Epagneul Breton traces its roots to French peasants who bred and kept small, less conspicuous dogs for the purpose of poaching game from the estates of the French nonility. Hunting and hunting dogs are inexorably linked with the working class.
Honestly, I would be willing to entertain more of this ideology if those promoting the idea that hunting and leftism are antithetical were predominantly vegans, but many of the people I encounter making this argument are not vegan. If you are complicit in the killing/suffering/exploitation of one animal because it’s convenient for you, then you sacrifice your right to be critical of others.
Moreover, I don’t understand the logic that killing a living creature is wrong, and that somehow humans are distinct from their nonhuman counterparts. Surely, the colonial extractive mindset is a mind virus, but hunting isn’t inherently extractive. Killing other living beings isn’t inherently extractive. Further, if the argument against killing animals is based on the issue of consciousness, that we shouldn’t kill conscious beings… who are you to arbitrarily decide what living things are conscious and which things aren’t? What even is consciousness? I believe it a far safer bet to assume all living things across all domains are conscious, rather than assuming a small class of vertebrate and invertebrate animals are conscious.
Ah, fuck. I’ve got shit to do. Peace.
Is this a you are killing plants so you are not better carnist talking point
Holy shit lol