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Kamala Harris appears to blame ‘people not voting’ for 2024 loss to Trump as book tour gets off to rocky start
(www.independent.co.uk)
this post was submitted on 12 Oct 2025
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So the article--which I'm sure EVERYONE READ--only discusses a knee jerk retort to a heckler which I guess blames non voters but it doesn't read like that.
I don't like Kamala as a candidate, I don't like the DNC (still fuck You DWS for torpedoing Bernie), but multiple things can be true at the same time. D should have candidates that are better, and a left candidate (who wouldn't even really fit in the party) would be nice. This is still a hardcore Murc's law situation: Trump is and was a known quantity and more people than just D had responsibility to avoid term 2 / get any accountability for term 1. By all means teach the DNC a lesson, but the cure is definitely worse than the disease for the presidency. (Maybe people should have left their couches and Lemmy earlier to BE the good candidates instead of complaining no one good enough was served to them?)
Having trump IS a result of no one else getting enough votes, that IS a result of people not voting. Sure we can argue for deontological voting and the duty of each vote and the value of not supporting genocide / the liberal establishment. However, teleologically speaking, all roads not leading to Harris led to trump. No way that would have been worse than this no matter what lipstick you put on it.
I am gonna be bitter forever that we got 47 because of people who knew what was coming and let it happen anyway, then sniff their own farts about it on the internet. Have the day you voted for in 2025 is a clever meme to post. Have the day you voted for or didn't vote at all for is even more apt. This is the cost you decided we should all pay to stick it to the DNC if you intentionally didn't vote, remember that. I hope it's worth it in 2028.
Apparently beating Trump is so important that progressives should abandon everything they been believe in and even tolerate genocide, but not so important that liberals need to actually try to court progressives, rather than endlessly tearing into them with even more venom than they have for Trump. It's been a year since the election and liberals are still obsessively foaming at the mouth with hatred for progressive; it wasn't a strategy that worked for them in 2024, but apparently they're going to keep doing it all the way to 2028.
DNC fought 100 times more fiercely against Bernie than Trump. They have forever lost my vote.
As a fellow Bernie supporter, let me assure you that the Republicans support your decision and Bernie doesn't.
After what Schumer pulled yesterday, I don't care...
I will never vote for democrats again. They are just a controlled opposition.
You might as well be angry at a stapler as the corporate structure of a political party.
Do you like having trump dismantle the government and plunge the country into a grifting fascist kakistocracy? Would you have preferred literally anyone else?
This is the shit YOU CHOSE. No other time no other person no other Republican presidency has been so damaging and it's not like it's surprising, we all saw part one. It didnt stop genocide any faster (I don't believe for a minute the current ceasefire will last). You picked this for us all of us. You asked for it. No thanks for whatever you're pretending to offer, the rest of us can't count on you when reality knocks. Maybe you chose the high road, maybe you just picked whatever let you do nothing and feel self important on the internet. In either case it's shitty and dumb and if it bites you it's just the cost of change, right?
Have the day you decided not to vote against.
Like I said, apparently Trump isn't so bad that you actually try to court progressives, rather than endlessly tearing into them with even more venom than you have for Trump. Like you said: I choose this, I pick for you, I'm the one with all the power, apparently, to stop Trump, and yet you still can't bring yourself to not behave like a frothing tantruming child at me for over a year now. You genuinely intend to keep doing this all the way to 2028, don't you? So if this is how unimportant it is to you, why should I care?
Whoever cares the least has all the power. You can't do anything without us either, the difference is I will probably show up because I understand this fact and you won't.
Well have fun continuing to eat shit then? It's hard to take your pontification about how important it is for Dems to win seriously, when you also make it extremely clear that you will not even slightly change tact even when it will mean you eating shit and losing again.
Yeah, like giving into fascism and licking boots to destroy the country while still getting the genocide. Brilliant fucking move, genius. Gaza is saved.
PSA brain is just a rage baiting troll
Incoherent
Playing dumb
No, your comment is literally just incoherent
Lmfao Explain
Well you see, your comment, is not coherent
That's not an explanation; that's a throwaway phrase for things you dislike. Why is it not coherent
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
Is that what people sound like to you when they say things you don't like?
Nope
Lmfao Explain
You see, when an adult argues, they don't play stupid when they read things they dislike.
That’s not an explanation; that’s a throwaway phrase for things you dislike.
Or resort to character assassination, insults, mockery, and diverting away from the topic. That's all you do every single time.
Lmfao Explain
Character assassination, insults, mockery, and diverting away from the topic. That’s all you do every single time.
I can pinpoint every single time that you resort to insults when you lose
Hope you don't get kirked buddy. It's cool to believe so strongly in not voting for a candidate you don't really like you're willing to allow a president who designated your way of thinking as terrorist activity, but that was the choice.
My conscience is clear because I am interested in voting whatever is best for everybody at election time and make my moral stand the rest of the time. I'd love to be a fly on the wall to hear you explain to your grandkids how you are so moral and so progressive and so against genocide that you decided to step aside and... allow genocide anyway with a side of 1930s Germany where Hispanics can also be disappeared from the street in broad daylight, heath and disease science get uprooted, and generally allow the government to collapse.
Very smart. Very cool. Very progressive of you.
Again, it’s hard to take your overwritten screeds seriously when you also make it extremely clear that you will not even slightly change tact even when it will mean you eating shit and losing again.