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https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/10/trump-trade-tariffs-china-software.html

He teased this announcement earlier in the day and the stock markets dropped by around 3%. Trump waited until the markets closed to make the full announcement. He also made the announcement on a Friday, the markets won't reopen until Monday.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/wall-street-tumbles-in-its-worst-day-since-april-after-trump-threatens-more-tariffs-on-china

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[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 33 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

It's valid, and called "passive voice phrasing." Most of the time, it's not recommended, but in a few cases it works better, like when you want to abstract or obscure the subject of a sentence.

This is why they say "Shots were fired in an officer-involved incident." Somebody shot a gun and they don't want to say it's the cops.

Often though, people just use it without thinking about it

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago

posts were made

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] jack@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago

it has been said by many people

[–] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago

It's valid, and called "passive voice phrasing."

You're conflating two separate things. The passive voice is just any "be verbed by actor" construct and is used to make the object of a sentence into the subject either to emphasize it above the actor or because the actor of the verb is abstract or unknown. It's only bad if it's used evasively, and is also a way that rhetoric can focus on and humanize victims in cases where there is often more focus and agency given to abusers/killers/enslavers/etc.

Passive phrasing/language is the evasive way journalists weasel away from ascribing agency to anyone, and ironically often doesn't use the passive voice because "nooo don't use the passive voice, center the actors, the actions, make it snappy!" is stuff they're taught in school and you can often be even more evasive using active intransitive verbs, which leads to absurd active voice passive phrasings like "bullet from sheriff's department armory caused death of bystander in shootout at CVS" (paraphrasing an actual headline from a real event from memory here) or "suspect dies following routine traffic stop, 'he was armed and dangerous' says police chief".