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Nah, guns don't kill people, just the bullets fired out of them kill. No one very died from a gun itself
Anyone beaten to death with the pistol grip or rifle stock would like to have a word with you.
Or stabbed by a bayonet
Is that the gun killing you tho? If it's affixed, does it count as the gun or just a knife kill?
Spear kill.
I think an attachment would still count as the gun doing it.
If we consider the gun ‘attached’ to the handler, would that put the blame back on the person? Or maybe we ought to consider the handler as part of the gun itself.
Neither the gun alone nor the person alone would have killed. Therefore, the dangerous thing is the COMBINATION of gun + person. In conclusion, we shouldn’t ban guns, just make it illegal for people to interact with them in any way.
That would require necromancy
Or the military personnel shot by misfiring pistols when they drop them.
And surely someone in history has been killed by knocking over a rack of guns and being clobbered.
Then it's because of whoever sold the bullets.
You don't need gun control. You know what you need? We need some bullet control.
Not quite in that form, but targeting restrictions on ammunition moreso than the guns themselves is part of my view on that issue. The country is full of guns already, they last practically forever with maintenance, and at the end of the day they're basically just a sturdy tube with some hardware to set the bullet off, and as such it would be difficult to stop illicit manufacturing (3d printed guns and zip guns come to mind). Bullets are at least consumable, require explosive chemicals to make and a gun won't fire without them. If you make it difficult to acquire large amounts at once, then it doesn't matter as much if a gun is modified to be fully automatic either.
That's fair, it'll also mean that the equivalent of ghost guns will be a sight to see given that making your own smokeless powder is very difficult but making your own black powder is just a pain in the ass (the only component that's easy to restrict can be extracted from human biological waste). And as far as I'm concerned, if you want to make black powder cartridges so much you're willing to process urea into saltpetre go ahead. You aren't getting a modern mass shooting like that