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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/37209900

Panicked Curtis Yarvin—JD Vance's guru—plans to flee USA

The arsehole was quoted:

The second Trump revolution, like the first, is failing. It is failing because it deserves to fail. It is failing because it spends all its time patting itself on the back. It is failing because its true mission, which neither it nor (still less) its supporters understand, is still as far beyond its reach as algebra is beyond a cat. Because the vengeance meted out after its failure will dwarf the vengeance after 2020—because the successes of the second revolution are so much greater than the first—I feel that I personally have to start thinking realistically about how to flee the country. Everyone else in a similar position should have a 2029 plan as well. And it is not even clear that it will wait until 2029: losing the Congress will instantly put the administration on the defensive.

Me:

So apparently not all is good in broligarchy land. Still it’s more likely he might be suffering some breakdown instead. Relatively poverty stricken people buy expensive convertibles when they have a midlife crises. People like him poop on the internet. Most likely he will be around, for sometime, causing grief

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[–] EponymousBosh@awful.systems 24 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Yarvin doesn’t think Trump has the guts to pull off a full fascist nightmare.

It physically pains me to say this, but I think Yarvin is correct here. What IS getting done is bad enough, but he's right that you can't really half-ass a hostile takeover, which is what Trump et al seem to be doing. Yes, they're fucking the US systems up, badly, but they're leaving the structures too intact. They're still bothering with things like court cases and gerrymandering. You don't bother with gerrymandering if you're not planning on still having elections, yknow?

I also think Yarvin is correct that Trump and crew will ultimately fail because of it. That's probably cold comfort to the people who have already lost loved ones, or who are dying or going to die because of this administration (and as a trans person myself, I may well be among that number), but it's not nothing.

[–] diz@awful.systems 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I don't think getting rid of elections would work. Dictatorships do not rely on election rigging alone. That's just interventionist propaganda (barge in, set up elections, presto, democracy).

Competent dictators don't act anything like Trump. Once in power they try to obtain support of as wide of a section of the population as possible. There's no freedom of speech in a dictatorship; the dictator is giving prepared speeches, designed to bolster his support, to unify the nation, etc, not just having fun gloating at half the nation's expense.

If he actually tries to maintain power despite his relative unpopularity, the consequences will be utterly disastrous.

[–] anotherdaniel@chaos.social 12 points 3 days ago

@EponymousBosh Of course there will be elections. Putin does elections too, they work wonderfully!

[–] anderesu@masto.es 5 points 3 days ago

@EponymousBosh @AllNewTypeFace Estoy de acuerdo. Sigo pensando que todo el caos que genera es una cortina de humo mientras roban cantidades inmensas de dólares. Cuanto más denso el humo más fácil que nadie preste mucha atención a su verdadero propósito. Un EEUU realmente fascista les estorbaria mucho para disfrutar del botín. Otra cosa son los dementes que ha puesto a dirigir el país mientras él hace el payaso para distraernos. Igual alguno sí que da una sorpresa.