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Hey, From what I heard, the budget needs to be approved by a 60% majority in the Senate. This means that the Democrats can currently veto a budget. If this is extended without end, could they functionnaly disolve the federal government and maybe start a new union of Democratic states? Do taxes continue to be perceived? What happens legally if the shutdown lasts until the midterms? Can states form another Union without leaving the current Union?

This is mostly a legal question, because the Democrats are never going to agree to such thing, and because the Republican would then start a civil war to stop it.

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[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Here's the problem: SCOTUS more or less Ok'd the previously illegal "pocket rescission".

This means the administration can literally decide to not fund anything appropriated by Congress. That makes negotiations for funding anything pointless. There has to be a line somewhere. At least (for now I think) the administration can't fund things without congressional approval. It's literally the only leverage Democrats have.

[–] Cassanderer@thelemmy.club 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dems should refuse to fund anything until pocket recissions are disallowed really.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

Just make a law part of the funding bill, it's relatived afterall.

I don't doubt that. My crystal ball tells me they will compromise at some point for the good of the workers, for the good of the country - whichever line works best at that moment. I wouldn't want them to do that but I'm pretty sure it will pan out that way eventually.