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I know, I voted for it!
The trend has been candidates are real buddy buddy with their local volunteers but whenever the org tries to enforce discipline they go dark, or pull some backroom shenanigans.
If AOC runs for president it will be an interesting test, she will have to come out against Israel (she won't) and DSA will have to not endorse. But since the org was historically, from the Mike Harrington days, a pro-zionist org, it was a dramatic step toward something coherent and meaningful. We lost a lot of good pro-palestine organizers after 2023 when we didn't pass the anti Zionist resolution.
The 2025 res was much better, but also the stakes are more urgently real also. Its disappointing we couldn't meet the moment back then, but I'm glad the org can respond in a meaningful way to those stakes, rather than retreat into Utopian idealism which runs rampant in our movements
Ironically enough, I think AOC coming out as anti-Israel openly in a presidential run would HELP a campaign and be the first steps towards actually harnessing the left populism Bernie was so afraid of.
And I’m just talking about right now. If trends indicate anything, by the time campaigning season comes around the issue will be even more pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel. But we NEED that anti-Zionism commitment to work, desperately.
Totally agree, on all points. It would be amazing to see AOC come out as anti-Zionist in a presidential campaign, but I'm really just too used to electeds being a big disappointment. Doesn't keep me from helping with campaigns, but we need to be able to build strong cadre candidates, and enforce discipline.
Getting there will be a process, and there are small pockets and opportunities appearing everywhere, more and more. And that's what makes this work so interesting and meaningful.
Ok but consider this: what if we tried nothing in the electoral field and just got angry that all of the candidates were pro-Israel?
Jokes aside, anybody who has done anything in electoralism knows being pro-Palestine used to be a poison pill. I don’t want to say it was all electoralism, but having a handful of politicians ready to call out the Zionist entity on its genocide in Palestine was probably not insignificant in helping public opinion shift. Rallying even liberals behind anti-Zionist candidates undoubtedly helped galvanize the opinions of them and those around them
Conditions are developing rapidly. I have hope from seeing it come together, but it is still extremely fucked up and scary. Def need more people to step up and get serious.
If AOC gets the nod from DSA it’s a severe indictment of the DSA, not that there isn’t plenty of ammunition there already since the DSA is a white supremacist project in the first place.