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As America backslides into fascism and authoritarian consolidation, what do you think should be done to course correct?

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[–] orclev@lemmy.world 40 points 3 days ago (4 children)

The two key turning points are going to be the midterms and when it comes time for the next election. Depending on how those events go, and if Trump hasn't died at some point in the next couple years (either from natural causes or because someone learns how to aim), things will likely go one of two wildly different directions.

If we actually have elections, and if the gerrymandering isn't so horrendous that it's impossible to overcome we'll hopefully see a Democrat elected and we'll start the incredibly slow crawl back to normalcy, hopefully with some significant reforms to make sure this shit doesn't happen again. The process is going to take decades to unwind all the damage Trump has managed in just a few years, but in theory we'll get there eventually.

On the other hand, we could go the opposite direction. Republicans retain the majority in the midterms, and then when the next primary comes around either we just don't have an election or Trump "wins" a 3rd term despite that being unconstitutional. At that point we're likely looking at either a civil war, or the US being defeated in a 3rd world war like Germany was in order to undo all this crap. Neither option is good and if things get to that point the world is fucked, the US doubly so.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

we'll start the incredibly slow crawl back to normalcy, hopefully with some significant reforms to make sure this shit doesn't happen again

And then the democrats will lose the midterm, which will lock up Congress and maybe get the president impeached, and we’ll be back to this shit again.

This has happened every decade for my entire fucking life.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The Dems have to stop being weak ass babies and just do what they want. If the right can do it why can't the left. Fuck norms and traditions.

[–] brandon@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago

For 98% of Dems (the politicians, I mean--I don't think the percentage is as high among the general population) being weak ass babies is what they want. "Norms and traditions" is their ideology.

[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago

I can't believe people still have faith in fair elections. He tried to cheat his first win. He refused to leave after his loss to Biden and tried to overthrow the government. Then he cheated again last year.

And for some reason you think the midterms will be open and fair?! That he'll even hold them at all? Or will allow them to be fair without cheating or intimidation? Or will actually obey the results? He doesn't listen to Congress now! Why would he start if the Dems won?!

And if by some miracle all of that worked out you think the Dems are going to start fighting back now? This isn't a political fight. It's a class fight and most of the Dems are in the owner class. That's why they go along with all this.

Stop relying on the next election. You don't vote your way out of fascism. Totalitarian leaders do not value elections. He will not leave or give up power.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

when the next primary comes around either we just don't have an election or Trump "wins" a 3rd term despite that being unconstitutional

And all the mainstream media will go about how this is an unusual turn with side panels of experts "debating" what Constitutional means...

The best of the worst cases is the US goes completely isolationist as the world turns from them and it all burns itself out into something different. I do not want this to spread out, and other countries need to pay attention once again and stop pretending it's fine. That's what really bothers me, even other leaders play the game instead of refusing to deal with him face to face. I guess they're doing that high road mess and using economic tactics to hit back.

Best case - mid terms have significant traction and shut him down, assuming he's still around. If he's not, Vance or whoever fails to keep what cultists there are still and there's something left to piece back together. But shit, it has to be better than what we had, otherwise it's just going to keep happening. In essence this is core Reconstruction failure and continued rot over more than a century. We really should have improved by now.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

The oligarch should be banned from other countries. Why let them in to spread they're hate.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 4 points 3 days ago

So the hope is that things are bad enough that voters finally learn their lesson but not bad enough that their votes don't matter....