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This shit is so tiring. Any time anyone does anything it's fascism to people who don't know what fascism is.
You see it in any liberal essay about the "similarities" between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union, which is always just: "they both employed secret police and they both imprisoned political opponents", charges that can be levied against just about any large government since the 19th century because those are the tools that large modern governments have access to. What matters is to what end those tools were employed - the Nazis subjugated millions, while the Soviets liberated millions, which is a big fucking difference.
Do the exact same policing in the open and it's all good though!
(but we also have the secret police too)
I had a right wing lib once try to tell me the FBI aren't actually secret police despite their operations being classified information.
(also ICE are also even more blatantly secret police)
I don't know anything about ICE unfortunately.
Just disappeared a former Olympic athlete and superintendent along with many others: https://apnews.com/article/ian-roberts-des-moines-schools-ice-arrest-510efff3950a1890a384e1b3e0c8b5a3
Should clarify, I know what they do, I just meant I don’t know anything about how they operate internally
They say it about revolutions, too, as if the Soviets and China were uniquely bad for purging their enemies after their respective civil wars. The US chased all the British supporters out of the country and the ones they could catch were tarred + feathered, drawn + quartered, or hanged. The French decapitated people by the hundreds. Charles I was executed at the end of the English Civil War. The only reason there weren't purges in Japan after the Satsuma Rebellion was because the rebels were all killed down to the last man in battle and the ones who weren't committed seppuku.
China sending the former Emperor to be re-educated was mild in comparison while the Soviets were incredibly restrained when dealing with their royal family.