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I recently bought a car that's a common "wave at other people who have the same car" car, and it got me thinking about how these parasocial relationships are among the few positive experiences one has when driving. Like it's hard not to be amused when someone else in a similar car waves or walking out of the grocery store and noticing an early model "parking buddy" next to me while I pack my weekly shopping trip in the trunk.

It's no secret that modern Jeeps are utter shit, and a lot of the owners don't off-road them. Stellantis just banks on Wranglers being kinda cute cars and the parasocial relationships people have with other owners of cars like that.

Anyways, I'm just happy to have a stupid manual transmission car again after like 10 years lol

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[–] CommunistBear@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I have been looking for a sidecar motorcycle for years now. They're just so damn expensive, it's discouraging

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Your second cheapest option (aside from just keeping your eye on the market for a used one) is to put one together from a Royal Enfield and a Cozy (or other Indian/Chinese sidecar manufacturer), but you're still getting up to at least $15k (maybe as low as $10k if the RE is used when you buy it. maybe as low as $7k if you can marry both a used bike and a used sidecar) especially if you get a shop to actually mount it for you (which is highly recommended since sidecars can be a bit squirrely even at the best of times). This would be the easiest to register too since it's a modern international motorcycle company.

The cheapest option, if you're willing to go through the effort required, is to buy a refurbished Chiang Jiang from China. They made a million military motorcycles in the 70s and there are a few sites that purport to be able to sell and ship one stateside for about $5k, but idk how tarriffs and stuff play into that the price has probably gone up since I last researched it. These can probably be registered as vintage vehicles wherever you live.

Should be noted that with these first two options you're not going to be driving on the highway with the bike in question. The 70s military CJs don't have the power, and cheap sidecars aren't safe at highway speeds. There's a reason new Urals start at $20k - they've got the suspension/brakes/etc to handle going over 100 kmh.

I also see a listing on Alibaba for a modern CJ with an 800cc V twin, which might be from the new company called CJ in Taiwan that released their modernized CJs a couple years ago. If that listing is legit then that may be the best option overall, although idk if it's registerable in whatever country you're in and idk about its performance/safety.

[–] CommunistBear@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Funny enough the modern Changjiang sidecar motorcycles are exactly what I was looking at. I keep getting videos of them on rednote and they look great. They only cost like $8k new but that doesn't mean much since I don't think I can get it in the US. Ural was the other choice but the price tag is the biggest issue for me

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

yeah I think the modern CJs only ship to Europe, or at least that was what was up when they came out originally and I looked into buying one (this was before I bought my Ural)

last thing I'll say is Urals are great and if they're cared for they last forever, keep an eye on the secondary market you can probably snag a 2020+ for 15k, older than that 10k or less depending on its condition.

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago

An old friend of mine bought a Ural back when we were in our 20s and I'm pretty sure he still has it 10+ years later (god, I'm getting old lmao chomsky-yes-honey). It's a super cool motorcycle.