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[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

P1 - Transgender women who possess an unfair advantage should be allowed to compete on equal grounds with women AFAB

P2 - Anyone can transition

Consequentially - Everyone can transition in order to gain an unfair advantage

I don't know what's so difficult to understand here. Reductio ad absurdum doesn't care about the practicality of the absurd outcome.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That says it's an "argumentative technique" and not a fallacy? I think it's a way to demonstrate the flaws of an argument.

It's also irrelevant because that's not even what I did. That's because:

Anyone can transition

Not just anyone can transition, a cis person who went through HRT and socially transitioned would give themselves gender dysphoria. Being trans is something inherent to trans individuals, it's not a trick used to game the system.

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think I've made it abundantly clear that I was using the reductio ad absurdum as an argumentative technique throughout this discussion.

Fair enough, I'm willing to give you that people that transition just to gain an edge in sports wouldn't necessarily be considered "trans". At the end of the day my core argument was that it wouldn't be fair to let trans women who potentially possess an edge physically to participate in sports where that physical edge is salient because it could be taken to this absurd end.

C'est fini

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

No, actually, I thought you were accusing me of taking your absurd argument to its logical conclusion. I didn't realize you were justifying why you are playing rhetorical games to say stupid shit like "cis men are going to transition to cheat in women's sports". It's nonsensical, it won't happen, anyone that tried would quit when their boobs started growing because gender dysphoria is real.

Gender dysphoria is torture. It's not a fun way to game the system and cheat at women's sports. The money and fame don't justify mutilating your body untill you want to die, especially in women's sports where there isn't a lot of money or fame to go around. Suggesting otherwise is basically saying that gender dysphoria isn't a big deal, that people would willingly do that to themselves for a minor advantage. It's inherently transphobic.

This isn't the absurd logical conclusion of letting trans women play sports, this is a transphobic misunderstanding of dysphoria.

Talking to you is self harm.