Ethnic Minorities and People of Color
Official Title of this Community: Ethnic Minorities and People of Color
Why is the title different?
We like to have fun here.
What is this place? A safe space for underrepresented peoples and peoples of color to talk, chill, and vibe.
What are the basic rules of the community?
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Follow Lemmy TOS and Community Guidelines. Non negotiable. This is the bedrock and mods will make decisions with this always in mind.
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This community is for ethnic minorities and people of color. This is a safe space where such people can freely discuss their struggles, insight, and thoughts without fear. If you are not, we respectfully ask you do not post or comment here. A future community will be established to allow for racial discussions with a mixed userbase. However, remember, comments here must still respect Lemmy TOS and Community Guidelines.
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Irony Racism is still racism. Racism is bad m'kay? We will treat irony racism and bad faith racist satire as racism. Will wield the ban hammer accordingly.
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No sectarianism: This is an identity channel not a channel for you all to complain about why XYZ isn't the "one true leftism". Take that to another place.
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Stupidpol is not allowed. Stupidpol is class reductionist. We are an identity community. Thinking like stupidpol ignores the struggles of the oppressed, their voices, and their need for unique support. Nothing says oppression more than someone saying that the identity you have is "not real" and that if you only thought like them you'd see what your "real" identity is. Mods reserve the right to ban users and content who promote stupidpol, stupidpol memes, and other class reductionist thinking.
FAQ
I don't look XYZ and/or sometimes I can pass as white so I don't know if I can post here. Can I?
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This place is for ethnic minorities and people of color. This includes those of mixed heritage and those who may be "white" but are of an ethnicity that is a minority in their area (i.e. Kurds, etc) If you've experienced oppression due to your identity that is not based on sexual / gender identification, you are welcome here.
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Moreover, for our American audience, we have people from around the world who are "white" but are oppressed due to being a minority in their country. They are and should be welcomed here.
What can I post?
- Anything you think is relevant to the mission of this community. Things will evolve over time.
- Topics and things relevant to EM and POC.
Suggested Posts
- [People of Spice]: Food recipes so others can taste your culture
- [Theory]: Vid/podcasts/websites discussing issues relevant to identity, anti-imperialism, etc
- [News]: Vids/podcasts/websites that talk about current events relevant to EM and POC
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I hear what you're saying. I think I reached this point in like, Spring of 2024 at the latest. And it was entirely because of that dynamic. Watching white and even so-called "radicals" rush to ignore genocide because they actually don't consider brown people human (again! They did this with Afghanistan and Iraq too, but this was so much worse!), well, that I should have expected. But to then in the very same breath act terrified that Trump was going to win and be a fascist just seemed selfish. Like ok white people, if you don't care about people being murdered in an open air concentration camp then don't suddenly expect people to care that you (and the rest of us) are going to get some more persecution at home. Be fucking consistent.
I mean, I was also basically frustrated with this dynamic: All of a sudden for the first time in their lives, many of these white people around me were grappling with fear that they were going to be directly persecuted by the government. I mean "they're going to put us in camps!" fear. That's something that the rest of us had to learn how to cope with as children. Grow the fuck up, white people. Or don't, but don't expect me to humor your childishness.
And I was so frustrated because I'd been trying to educate white people about the fascist threat for over a decade at that point, by pointing out the many ways the US government murders people abroad and persecutes immigrants domestically and was already putting immigrants in camps and cages and had been jailing black people to use for prison labor longer than I'd been alive, but most of my pleas for people to care about other people had fallen on [ableist language I won't say actually, because that ableistly ascribes to disability what is better ascribed to whiteness. My words fell on white ears]. I'd been called "psychotic" even for saying that this white american nativist movement was evil, was going to kill people, and needed to be treated as such. But now all of a sudden wouldn't you know it, Trump is fascist! The fascist threat suddenly looms out of nowhere! So we have to have to have to support Democrats to protect us from Trump! And if I pointed out that the Democrats were actively committing a holocaust right in front of our eyes, it was drowned out by "but the genocide will continue no matter who's in power! We're in danger! Save us!" I looked around. Was I alone in thinking this. I could be the odd one out and still be right, but if it was only me I should consider that maybe I was just wrong. But then other trans immigrant influencers I followed started saying it too: "Don't use our queerness to excuse genocide. Fuck Trump, but fuck Biden and Harris and the Democratic Party as a whole too." So no, it was (mostly) whiteness.
It sent a clear message: Oh, they have no solidarity. They don't actually care about fascism. They don't actually care about systemic violence being done to people. They just care about themselves. All those years when I had solidarity with oppressed white people meant nothing to them, because they just wanted to take but never give. And I stopped being able to care or respond in emotionally supportive ways. Friends would confide in me "I'm really scared, what if they try to round us up?" and all I could say was "welcome to the club, how do you think they treated Muslims here? But even then, most people didn't get caught up in the dragnet so you're probably going to be fine and shouldn't worry so much, it's needlesly stressing you. Here's what helped me cope and not stress so much, maybe it'll help you: "If they come for me, I won't die alone, but til then I'm not going to torment myself worrying about a day that may never come." I was trying to share my hard-won wisdom and help people not have to reinvent the wheel. But these ingrates didn't appreciate it.
It reminds me of what I find so funny about HP Lovecraft's writing, actually: the white supremacist attachment to being at the top and suddenly finding out they're not. For Lovecraft's characters, it was because there were older and more ancient powerful civilizations that predated Mankind. For Lovecraft himself, it was similar, except he was losing his shit about nonwhite cultures. For these people, it's finding out that their whiteness will not protect them from other white people.
idk, it's probably not the best thing for solidarity-building to vent those feelings but this is an EMPOC only space. And on the other hand, I'd really like to see white people who are relatively new to being systemically oppressed to this extent account for their position and maybe with a bit of humility say "I'm freaking the fuck out about possibly being on a government kill list, can those of you who've already had to grapple with this help me cope?" instead of "so y'all need to listen to me when I tell you that the best way to protect me is to throw your comrades under the bus".
It's been so, so frustrating dealing with whites about BLM. Trayvon Martin was killed in 2012 and Eric Garner + Tamir Rice both in 2014. They've been silent for over a decade. But you torch a few cop cars in 2020 after another unarmed black person is murdered and all of a sudden they're losing their shit.
I have to remind myself intersectionality isn't conditional, but holy fuck does whitey test my patience.
I probably should try to remember intersectionality isn't conditional because I never consciously thought it was before, but damn some people need to have that point hammered home for them.