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[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (13 children)

How many people at these conferences are asking him why he keeps calling Nick Fuentes a leftist?

Lmao no fucking way. If this schism is real I might as well try to understand the difference between these grifters. What exactly makes Nick Fuentes different from Kirk? How much worse is he than Cucker Tarlson and Asmongolf?

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 52 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

It's entirely that Fuentes is an old school openly antisemitic nazi who only cynically opposes isntrael because he actually hates Jews even though he also hates Arabs and Muslims while Kirk was the more mainstream evangelical zionist form of fascism

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 42 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yeah this is the main thing for sure

There's also some amount of like Kirk being viewed as the institutionalist to some degree. That sounds insane, but just saying. Kirk was all onboard team-Republican whatever that message might be. Fuentes seeks a much more, I dunno what word to use, "extremist" I guess, direction for the American right. He's basically all in on just doing genocides with no apologies or hiding it. He's an open white nationalist. He literally said Kirk didn't support white people (this was prior to Kirk's death) presumably because of support for Israel which of course they view as Jewish and "not white."

Truly Hitlerian stuff. Which again sounds insane considering Kirk was very Hitlerian. Not Hitlerian enough though for some Hitlerians. American politics in a nutshell. Fundamentalist Hitlerians vs The Hitler Reformation movement. Or something.

[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There's also some amount of like Kirk being viewed as the institutionalist to some degree. That sounds insane, but just saying.

Well yes. He was the front man of a substantial political fundraising and propaganda apparatus. That's institutional by definition. By comparison, Fuentes is just an influencer. Kirk's political line was determined by what gets evangelical crackers to open their wallets for Republican political campaigns (There are limits here. Your job is to sell ethno-religious strife as an alternative to any materially beneficial policy, but you're not supposed to wear your Grand Wizard robe to the rally). Fuentes's political line is determined by what creates the most controversy possible for the sole purpose of promoting himself.

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