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I had a really good conversation about this sort of thing with someone who has been to Wasteland, the Max Max-style cosplay festival on the US West Coast. They are reportedly very strict about people always being "in costume" or "in character" (ie: dirty, post-apocalyptic-ish) whenever outside private camp spaces.
I find it pretty ironic that the Deathguild folks from Burning Man are out there, running an event that enforces mandatory culture. Subsuclutre implies depth, nuaunce, context, space to fuck with things.
It's all play, which is what all this ridiculous stuff is supposed to be in the first place. If you want a shallow simulacrum, go to Disneyland.
So there's a group of people that all mutually agreed to play with each other in a certain way, and you'd rather they play by your rules instead?
Reading is hard, isn't it?
You might be confused because the person I'm replying to said they want "less rules" while I said "so you want them to play by your rules instead?".
I phrased it this way because expecting your peers to deal with a greater range of behavior from you places no less of a burden on them than following the original rules does. Its not "less rules", its different rules.
Or, to put it another way, if you're a kid playing hide and seek with a bunch of other kids and you say "I should be able to change my hiding spot while the seeker is walking around", you're not 'adding more freedom' to the game, you're making a different game.
To be clear I have no horse in this race, I've never been to this event. But to me someone showing up to something someone else created, that other people are presumably enjoying the way it is, and saying "it should be this way instead and if you don't like it go to Disney Land" just comes across as really entitled and bitchy. I wouldn't have said anything if they had said "I would prefer it this way".
Something that everyone should have learned on the playground is that you can't expect to force other kids to play the way you want them to, but that you also don't have to play with them if you don't like their game.
Where did they say that? That's certainly not what I understood when I read
I want a shallow simulacrum of Mad Max. I want several halfhazardly welded vehicles around and I want somewhere to do burnouts with them or hang off the jutting bits and I want to be suspended with metal cables in front of a speaker array and be given a fire breathing triple necked guitar.
I also want fire and ambulance services standing by of course
Pitch it as a training event, give new EMTs some opportunities to check off a few boxes in the trauma category.
Will you run over to the food concession tent and get another bucket of ice for all these fingers? thx
Reasonable Max
So... demolition derby?
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