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[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 71 points 6 days ago (4 children)

I thought the kid killed him over dropping the Epstein files and being fascist? Unfortunate he killed himself next week and we'll never know for sure.

[–] AndiHutch@lemmy.zip 48 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I stole this meme from somewhere else, and I think it actually is kinda misleading. Here's what actually happened in brief:

July 2025:

Kirk said the Epstein Files should be released.

August 2025:

Trump told Kirk to shut up about the Epstein Files. (He did)

September:

A groyper follower killed Kirk.

A possible motive is that Fuentes and the groypers really hated Kirk becuase he was a Trump Lackey who was covering for Trump with the Epstein Files. Possibly they also hated him because he wasn't enough of a Jew-hater.

Edit: Oops meant to put this as a top level, oh well.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I thought it was a typo but apparently not. What’s a groyper?

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They're basically if 4chan had founded the KKK.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago

I've never seen such a perfect description.

[–] imsufferableninja@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

That's what the Nick Fuentes cultists call themselves

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago

More or less than Göring?

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago

It's Hispanic 100%

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago (4 children)

And how do Nick Fuentes cultists differ from your garden variety white supremecist?

[–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 6 days ago

White supremacy: fascism through racism, willfull ignorance, religion and toxic masculinity as tools to reinforce fascism.

Groyper: Gleefull, full throated fascism. Fully aware of the cog dis. They treat harrasing people into suicide as a hobby, for the lulz. The members are usually terminally online young men, social outcasts, often neglected. Terrorism is a game played for fun.

Thought policing can be realized through something innocuous like "owo, what's this" on a bullet casing. Is that a dog whistle now? What if a maga moron overheard me say that and thought it was a furry-nazi-leftist dog whistle?

More memes, I guess

[–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 days ago

Heres's a relevant video. I promise it's informative: ttps://youtu.be/P55t6eryY3g?si=Kww-R_BED4l89zlW

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago

The last name didn't give it away?

[–] AndiHutch@lemmy.zip 37 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

The engravings in the bullets could be interpreted that way, but I have read from people more familiar with the groypers and how they operate that they love co-opting seemingly antifa messages and using them ironically as a dogwhistle. They are generally very online gamers who lurk in games like Helldiver's 2 and use it as a nazi bar.

So the messages on the bullets seem innocent and left-coded to normal people but to someone sufficiently steeped in the shit-stew of 'groyper culture', they would essentially act as a sign, that one of their own people did it. It is very similar to an inside joke that kids have or things like skibidi toilet. By putting those particular in-group inside jokes on the bullet, the shooter was signalling to Nick Fuentes's Groypers(essentially a gang) that he put the hit in on Kirk and TPUSA. So it seems to me like from this group context one could deduce that Kirk got killed by gang violence.

Kirk's last words were literally 'gang violence'. Coincidence? I think not.

Edit:grammar mistake

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I thought his last words were "what about gay-🤯"

I thought they were "gurgle gurgle."

[–] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Well said, though I am more convinced a rival to the post-Trump throne has eliminated one of the crown princes.

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 days ago

I thought it was peter thiel until they got the kid.

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

lol had to re-read that second sentence