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The rest of the internet is bad, like real fucking bad, this place and lemmygrad and trueanon (when they're not saying shitty stuff) are like the only good normal healthy places left online. (hexbear.net)

submitted 1 month ago by SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net to c/chat@hexbear.net

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Just putting that out there. While we might have struggle sessions over bullshit, the larger internet zeitgeist is putrid and rancid.

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[–] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 59 points 1 month ago (3 children)

just popping in to say fuck discord.

[–] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

IRC but worse should not have been a winning idea

[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I can't stream video, direct drop files, use custom emotes, or see at a glance which of my friends are online across servers on IRC, so I don't see how Discord is worse.

[–] pumpchilienthusiast@hexbear.net 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

id have to say it is the spying

[–] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago

The centralised private ownership and inability to extricate data are also up there.

[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Streaming video can be done with Jitsi Meet
Voice chat via mumble.
sharing files can be done via pastebin site (if text form) or through other third party (like imgbb).
custom emotes can probably be done by extending the IRC protocol to allow for embedding tiny images. IRC allows for users to send commands so I don't see why this couldn't be done.
IRC can support this in a network.
An IRC network can run on a computer the size of a shoe.

Discord meanwhile:

Is only compatible with itself so if your system doesnt support the client or the web interface well you're boned.
Has very little content moderation.
heavy advertisements via promotions and NitroTM (their subscription service to access basic features like recoloring the interface).
terrible UI.
spyware and data harvesting
no support for encrypted messaging.
Network effect so groups and orgs feel compelled to choose discord just because its popular and relatively frictionless.
shadowy corporation that the public doesnt really know the inner workings of.

[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 2 points 4 weeks ago

Streaming video can be done with Jitsi Meet

Voice chat via mumble.

sharing files can be done via pastebin site (if text form) or through other third party (like imgbb).

How is the ability for software that isn't IRC to do things a point in favor of IRC? It's faster and easier to set up one account, one run program, and get everyone together on that program than it is to do the same across 3 or 4 of them.

Is only compatible with itself so if your system doesnt support the client or the web interface well you're boned.

I've used Discord on a variety of systems and never run into this problem.

Has very little content moderation.

It has the same content moderation as IRC: whatever the local server admins set up.

terrible UI.

Your mileage may vary, I suppose. I was able to learn the UI pretty quickly.

Security and privacy concerns

These are a valid point and the one thing that prevents me from really recommending Discord.

[–] Beaver@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I hate how it has subsumed all hobby forums.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I thought Reddit already did that

[–] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

discord accelerated it and it's not even searchable! Reddit at least leaves a public record.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Being able to find advanced knowledge on extremely niche topics was what made the internet good. That sucks.

I'm sure feds can search it though 😮‍💨

[–] MizuTama@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

Only feds get to have hobbies.

[–] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

Discord is shit and I hate it, but it's still better than the other large platforms