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[–] tyler@programming.dev 17 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

Why does no journalist ever ask why government officials want Israel to be our ally. Just because they were for x number of years has no bearing on whether or not they should have been or should still be our ally. Russia was our ally, guess what, they’re not anymore. We don’t have to ally ourselves with murderous countries.

The whole interview centers on Israel must be our ally so we must do stuff for them. They shouldn’t fucking be our ally!!! They’ve been committing atrocities for generations at this point!

[–] BertramDitore@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

He got super close to asking that, and Lew’s answer was completely infuriating, as was every response he gave. But you’re right, I wish they would ask it outright.

Q: In the essay, you write a lot about the shared values of America and Israel. But today you have talked about pushing them to deliver aid, and you’ve talked about the fact that once Trump came into office and that push wasn’t there, the humanitarian situation got worse. Why was there a need to push so hard? Why do they need to be pushed to not ethnically cleanse Gaza? Why do they need to be pushed to have their military act in an honorable way? If they are our shared ally and our great friend, why aren’t they doing these things on their own?

A: The environment in October and November of 2023 was how do you sustain an enemy that just slaughtered twelve hundred of your citizens? You had to create a way for the aid to get in without it having the effect of making your enemy succeed. It is pretty unusual.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago

Genocide is a shared value all right, but the US doesn't like to admit it.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Isreal is an ally because it's a FOB for the US to use against the middle east.

That, and modern Evangelical Christianity hinges on the Jews controlling the holy land as a precursor to the apocalypse. And Evangelical Christians vote Republican.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 3 points 3 weeks ago

I’m not actually asking for the answer. I want a journalist to actually get a government official to admit whatever personal reason they have so that we finally stop supporting this genocidal nation. Nobody is going to try to vote to remove these people from power until they actually admit their reason.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago

They have never been allies. They have never put Israeli lives on the line to do anything for the US. They're a parasitic client state that only takes. At best, they sell at a discount to us. They're no more an ally than Saudi Arabia is.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Politics. Over the years there have been quite a few UN votes where only Israel stands by the us. Supposedly clandestine operations that the us wanted to stand apart from. The alternative would be having to think about why the rest of the world opposed