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Where did all the newsom stans go?
EDIT: the number of downvotes is the number of people who agree with performative cruelty to homeless people.
nobody likes Newsome, but in contrast to the rest of the Dems.... he's actually effective at getting under the GOPs skin. That's the whole thing.
GOP doesn't give a shit about Jefferies yapping on the floor for hours. They don't care about another "strongly worded letter" from Schumer. And everyone, EVERYONE, hates Pelosi....
Yes, we all want more people like Mamdani. His policies are everything that I want, that most of us want. But you'd also have to be politically ignorant to not realize that his platform is on shakey ground nationwide. You can do something like Mamdani in a blue stronghold like NY. But across the nation? At this moment in time? No chance, you might as well just hand GOP the keys to power ad infinitium.
I don't like Newsome, but I'm not trying to throw the whole country in the toilet waiting for the world to come around to Mamdani. Playing this "all or nothing" game is getting real people killed and lives ruined.
if Progressives are supposed to vote blue no matter who, then Centrists can too. If someone like Mamdani beats Newsom in the 2028 primary they can suck it up and vote for him.
I've swallowed loads the past three elections, it's their turn to take one for the team.
"blue no matter who" has always been a cudgel used by "party unity my ass" types.
They should. But like the many left-abstainers in 2024, it remains to be seen if they will.
If someone like Mamdani runs in the 2028 primary (Mamdani himself being sadly ineligible), they will have my general and primary vote. God forbid a shithead neolib like Newsom gets through.
But 'Blue No Matter Who' is an expression of desperation against the fascists in the GOP, not a magic formula, as much as we wish it was.
followed by 4 paragraphs of "you are going to vote newsom and love it"
If no one likes him, he's not gonna win. But let's face it. Winning isn't the point. Making sure no progressive is able to run is the point. And you'll campaign for someone you claim to hate in order to make sure that happens.
As long as cynicism is the logic for choosing candidates, we are never going to see real leaders at the helm of the party. But yeah, let's continue to not have faith voters can do better because the alternative sounds exhausting.
Something I don't think a lot of people realize is that Lincoln was a pretty shitty dude. Modern leftists would crucify him. He had a pretty shitty opinion on civil rights and only put an end to slavery so the fighting would end.
You're seriously comparing newsom to Lincoln?
So what if I am? Do you actually know much about Lincoln, or just the simplified version they fed you in 3rd grade? I’m not saying Newsom is Lincoln or that this means he should be president, that’s not the point. The point is that even someone widely regarded as one of the “best” presidents is remembered mostly for a single policy, and even that didn’t go far enough on civil rights.
Sounds to me like you're saying that anything newsom does that was acceptable in the 1860s is perfectly fine.
You're almost there, I'm saying he's straight out of the 1860s