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There's a couple of things wrong here
Just because your comment was – though accurate and relevant – perhaps implicitly a little dismissive of Sam's accomplishment in repelling her and seriously wounding her, here's how she's described in the books:
That's a very good point. Sam's achievement shouldn't be understated, as he is the first and last mention of any harm coming to Shelob. Beren did pass through Shelob's birthplace in the first age as he traveled through Ered Gorgoroth (he was the only one of the children of Ilúvatar to do so), and I wonder if he crossed paths with her, as she was the final and mightiest of Ungoliant's spawn and therefore must have had a place of dominance amongst the other great spiders there.
Imagine being a creature born of an ever yawning abyss, living for eons; and possibly the second mortal to evade your maw is not Beren, greatest of men, but rather Samwise, the humblest of the children of Ilúvatar, and not only did he evade her grasp, he wounded her and stole her finest meal in what was probably hundreds of years. Sam was truly one of the most valiant souls to ever walk Arda
Yeah but the sun and the moon arent the sun and the moon but the last remaining fruits of the trees right? Cast out so that they not get destroyed with a guardian each?
So technically the trees basically are the original sun and moon even if not the first light.
I'm not super knowledgeable on these specific religious texts.