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Dems will always pull to the right to beat The Left. Wake up. They don’t care about or represent you.
I agree with you, but I want to point out the strategy was mostly to get moderate voter who tend to vote Republican to vote for them, not to get moderate Republicans to vote for them. Slightly different, but an important distinction. It was still stupid and failed either way though, because they had to abandon people who are more on their side to do so.
Fair point, and thank you for the clarification!
What's the difference? If you're a moderate voter who votes Republican, then you're a...moderate Republican. That's what a moderate Republican is.
I don't know if you're aware but you can register your party affiliation. Some states require this to vote in primaries. The graph above is for registered rebublicans, not people who tend to vote Republican.
Stooooop. He was primaried out of the race, the dem voters did that in NYC. There are absolutely shitty people on the dem side, but it's not the entire party like the republicans right now.
Besides, it's the people in the party that make the party. Do grass roots shit to get the people causing issues out of the party.
Like the kid that got elected to the DNC then they decided they didn’t do the voting correctly and he needed to go after they realized he really meant it when he said he was going to primary “asleep at the wheel” sitting Dems?
Yeah, what happened with that?
They kicked him out.
I thought they were going to redo the election
Nope it was just an excuse to push him out. Blatant corruption
So they're just not going to redo it, just say "You lost because you won!" and have that be that?
I mean I knew what they were doing, I just didn't think they were going to be this obvious about it.
I capitalized Dems because I'm using the proper noun. People who vote for that party are largely not at fault because they have been brainwashed to think Dems are actually progressive. For the most part, they're simply not properly educated about politics and our system ensures that.
Dems, like this asshat and Pelosi, don't give a fuck about you. Nor did Hilary. Nor did Obama. Even when they sound good, they prove themselves, by their actions, to care more about corporations and their own power than they care for the people.
What's the alternative?
We're seeing it in New York with Mamdani; stop voting for these old dinosaurs that don't care about you, support DSA candidates and third party leftists who actually want to help you. It takes a shitton more work than just voting, and includes working for their campaigns as well.
100% agree. There is a lot of trolling on Lemmy to "Don't vote dem!" because it has worked in the past. We have to say one or 2 replies to them so people understand that they're trolling. It's obvious by their responses.
Nobody is saying don't vote for progressives. A lot of people are saying they will not vote for a conservative in general elections, so if the dems ratfuck progressives, they guarantee their own loss.
Every time you say "vote blue no matter who" and demand people pledge to vote dem no matter what, you help the dnc maintain the delusion they can win while trying to be republicans.
I knew we were cooked when we had people demanding I pledge to vote blue 1 month into the genocide in Gaza, a year before the election, instead of joining me in telling the dems what they need to do to win.
He's running independent.
That doesn't make him any less of a Dem. It only means he couldn't win their nomination.
Is he running on the dem ticket?
Or is it a socialist running on the dem ticket due to a primary win?
The socialist isn't a Dem. Cuomo is a Dem. This is regardless of which one won. I'm a socialist and would vote for Zohran if I lived there.
The Dems (including Cuomo) are attempting to undermine Zohran's campaign. What about that position do you find untrue?
That Cuomo is running as an independent and that Mamdani is running as a Democrat.
Is he a dem soc? Damn right, and I'm damn happy to have him run (and win, I hope the idiots who won't vote for him split between the jackasses running as independent).
But he's still running as a Democrat.
And Cuomo is not running as a democrat. He's running as an independent, making a choice to not support the person who won the democrat ticket. If that doesnt mark a split from supporting the democrat party, I really dont know what does.
Better let Dem party leaders know this, they've yet to publicly endorse Mamdani.
I dont believe that impacts how his name is presented on the ticket...
Bernie Sanders ran for the Democratic nomination as president twice even though he's not part of the Democratic Party.
We're talking past one another. I'm not going to engage further. We disagree on terminology and there doesn't appear to be a solution to that. Good luck to you.
The Democratic party is composed of whoever wins the primary and various internal party elections. The fact that people like you can't seem to understand that is why it's still in such a dire state.
The fact that I defected in favor of true progressives and socialists because Dems are centrists is part of why they are in such a dire state. They sold us out. That people like you don't recognize that and demand more is also why they are so ineffectual and hence in a dire state.
The Democratic Party is the DNC. Not its voters. Not every person running on their ticket.
Doesn't make him any less of a right wing neo con shit stain*