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But it wasn't, for the reasons ysf said, of thousands of emojis making one mistake is human.
I'm not really good with words, but what I'm trying to say is that the mod team needs to admit it was a mistake from the start (and yeah there was context and reasons and whatever)
I am absolutely against the line that says "we have seen the true nature of Israel these past 2 years and now we have come around to adding the emoji" or that "the genocide gave us a chance to grapple with our own personal hangups and feelings", I know this is not exactly what is being said and maybe I'm a bit uncharitable, but it's how it comes across. Don't use this as the official line.
And yeah I understand that some comrades might have had some milquetoast or even zionist positions before October 7 and their antizionism has developed since, but that is their own personal story.
Like I told Lyudmila, the Nakba happened in 1948.
I thought it was clear that we think it was a mistake, and that the self-crit expressed in the post body was giving context to why the mistake was made. Yes the emoji could have been made 4 years ago, but was not. It was a mistake and one that we regret. That being said there was never a ban on burning flag of isntreal posting in fact almost every news mega has those images in comments, the sticking point was having the person who in charge of the emojis personally make and implement it.
That part is clear.
Should have, please read my first reply again.
Personally, I am not trying to get anyone to do self-crit or explain their positions or whatever. I just took issue with a specific part of your statement and tried to explain why. And like I said, I hope my comments don't come across as hostile, comrade.
Literally nobody else has the technology to upload a .png file
So you were unable to attach the image of a burning isntreal flag to a comment or post?
You all turn into such bad faith little shits when you do your hasbara routine
What are you talking about?
Do you even like this site?
I like the users here, the 90% in this thread agreeing with me are all pretty cool.
I don't like the admins and mods who repeatedly harass me, smear me, lie about me and who make zionist arguments in bad faith and then pretend they didn't the next day. You hate me so much you reflexively became zionists to spite me. It's quite incredible.
You really want users here to believe that this one person was the chokepoint, the hold up, and you were totally getting around to it but that one person was just busy? Come on it take like 30 seconds for anybody on your team to do if you cared. Instead you banned people and locked threads. Over and over. Dozens of times. Never once have you admitted all these wrongdoings and zionist actions.
You are actually scapegoating a jew here to try and get out of this. Like you couldn't make this shit up. Who's the anti-semite now? Having an inactive mod eat your sins for you cause you can't own up to your years long zionism and suppression of people who told you this hundreds of times?
I don't hate you, me and other admins have spoken up for you for years from the first zposter to, https://hexbear.net/u/zenzposter360 and https://hexbear.net/u/Spectre_of_Z_poster and https://hexbear.net/u/ZZ_SloppyTop
I'm sorry you have experienced all of that, and this bad faith engagement/least charitable intrepretation is an exact symptom of the site culture that is vital to change.
Are you innocent of this?
Do you think that we want different material outcomes?
For years people have complained that your messages speak the truth however the delivery is aggressive, you have received years of grace. Could you consider returning some to me as we try to find a solution here?
Zenz poster was a lib who I rightfully drove off this site, he didn't support the SMO or uphold his revolutionary duty. You keep getting all my alts wrong in this thread. It's quite annoying how many copy cats I have and how I can't actually tell you which specific ones actually are me - but I only have one active account at a time. I have to keep making new ones because I keep being driven off the site for this exact type of thing. Threats from moderators, being banned for pointing out their unfair practices. The vast majority of people shut up and put their head down or don't notice.
I notice and I speak up. I'm the reason you're fixing this problem after all. I have to do it because nobody else will.
I was once a normal user, I once would be happy to always be patient and talk in good faith. You've lost that with your years of putting up with me being harassed and threatened and gaslighting me about it. I don't care about your rules anymore. You've jokerfied me. Do you understand that feeling? Of being corned and dogpiled so you become da joker baby? That's what has happened here.
epic tagline material right here, you're basically the joker, that's so sick
Yeah haha isn't it epic how I was suicide baited and then the mods covered it up and lied about it? So freakin' sick
I don't know anything about that, I just thought your supervillain monologue was cool
No investigation, no right to speak.
Well I'm sorry that it has come to this, I would say that my experience as an admin has included being cornered and dogpiled
Am I understanding you correctly when you say that you are a jokerfied user who does not care about site rules that has had and continues to have a multitude of alts spanning years dedicated to driving people off the site who you have ideological differences with?
You really usually are the sacrificial cthulhu city aren't you? What's up with that
Maybe I am the joker too
If you're the joker (baby) then name three gags
repetition, flat delivery, self deprication
Damn you're good
I'm the only one who can get you to fix your shit apparently. You can call that whatever you want.
You gotta stop Sephiroth posting for a bit. Save your energy for if the response is shit.
If it is, everyone can go back to bring angry. But for now, probably calm down and do something else for a bit
what a convincing allegation lmao
disingenuous to zposter? I just wanted it to be clear that there was never a ban on posting images of the isntreal flag being burned and that this discussion is specifically about an emoji. I acknowledge that the mod action taken against zposter is related to it but I think it has been established that he has a history with the mod team and the siteban was not about the emoji
My comment is not directed towards ysf or trying to relitigate what happened. I'm objecting to your statement that it should've been added months ago, I'm really not okay with people saying that the genocide happening is the reason why we should do this.
Again, I'm not trying to call ysf out but I also don't see the point you're making. And I hope this comment doesn't come across as hostile.
it's getting added right now because of z poster raising a stink, and the mods and admins profoundly showing their zionist asses in response, and the userbase having a backlash in response. That's the reason. Or do they expect us to believe it's a total coincidence that suddenly it's a top priority?
Way to pat yourself on the back buddy. Or maybe you just forgot you were talking on this profile as yourself and not pretending to be a different person.
You’re not that important. Stop crediting yourself for shit.
The real reason this topic came up again was because of the federal courts making it a form of “racial discrimination” to burn it, prompting the community to reevaluate how we’ve approach it.
It's not, the point is that ysf did all the emojis, and did not want to add it when it was first requested. A couple other mods/admins agreed with her perspective so we didn't go around her out of respect
I think we are on the same page then, and I'd like it to be stated that the emoji should've been added once it was requested. If you wanna provide the context for why that didn't happen, yeah sure.
The context is in the post body and the fact that we did not want to go around her and the mods/admins that agreed with her to make the emoji when the pictures in comments were allowed.
We're kinda talking past each other, and I bear some of the blame, like I said, I'm not good with words. I know the context comrade and I was there when ysf objected to adding the emoji.
What I was asking for is for you to amend this statement:
And I've explained my objection towards it so I won't go into that again, but it should read " We should have added the emoji once it was requested."
Maybe you think I'm making a big deal out of nothing, but in this very thread some comrades were mentioning the genocide while trying to make the case for why we gotta add the emoji. I know they are well-meaning and I'm not calling them out, but I think we need to be clear about this.
What I meant is that I don't care one way or another.
Ok I'm sorry for my part in talking past you and agree with your change. I'll edit it shortly. Thank you!
Years ago 😭😂 I honestly laughed it off.
Good luck with this whole thing, and make sure not to burn out.