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Hey all. I'd like to open an official discussion regarding the upturning of the prior Hexbear party line on an :israel-cool: emote proper with the unambiguous Zionist flag.

I want to preface this by saying this is not in a 'ceding the issue' way. Over the past year I've been trying to engage in self-crit w/rt the chauvinism I've internalized growing up in a Liberal Zionist household, and my personal viewpoint on it did a 180 some months back, so I want to reopen this discussion proper in my personal capacities as Self-Appointed Emote Czar.

The reason it's taken long enough beyond that is prior to July, I was essentially half-engaged with the site in order to finish out my degree. After that, it’s been mostly inertia of confirming with the admins and other /c/Judaism mods, as well as having to be rigorous about my job search personally giving me little free time to coordinate this.

I do not want to center myself in this conversation more than I inadvertently already have, so I will leave my own opinion on the issue as a comment rather than explaining further here.

The consensus we've roughly come to is to open up the discussion in an official manner for a day or so. After that, I'll weigh the discussion in an entirely vibes-based manner (sorry Dean Norris enjoyers) and we'll alter Hexbear party line on it accordingly.

lea-bounce

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[–] Vingst@hexbear.net 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

as a pattern-seeking animal, i support the standard cool flag template

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 19 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

the fact that the burning aussie flag is nonstandard must be addressed

amerikkka kkkonfederacy ukkk aus-delenda-est

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

i thought it was a joke about australia being really hot or something and didn't question it

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

it's a joke about the huge fires that were around in australia a while back

[–] Aradino@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago

They're pretty much yearly.

The big big ones are every few years at this point, and with the climate apocalypse progressing they're going to be worse.

[–] Aradino@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I take it as a joke about bushfires which is.. Questionable? Feels mean spirited anyway.

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Honestly it's always bothered me, too.

[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 11 points 3 weeks ago

Hadn't known that until now but I agree that laughing at Indigenous lands being burned because they are occupied by a colonial force we hate is much more in bad taste than the topic at hand

[–] Aradino@hexbear.net 8 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah I think I've said something about it before but never pushed it because it doesn't really matter much, but I dont think its okay and would rather it be a uniform size.

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

i tend to assume these sorts of things are gallows humor, not mean-spirited

but if it's gotta go then nbd

[–] Aradino@hexbear.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

Gallows humour is for the people in the gallows though. When theres a big fire and the smoke blankets cities and I get to not be able to breathe for a while I don't really want to joke about it like that. And I'm not even in direct danger. I doubt the people fleeing their homes or trying to save wildlife are joking about it much

[–] Leon_Grotsky@hexbear.net 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

IIRC the emoji was made during the 19'-20' Bushfires, the big flame is referencing to that.

Obscure enough trivia it could be standardized with the rest, but I like the little site culture things like that.

[–] Babs@hexbear.net 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It should be an ordinary size flag but the flames should be upside down.

[–] Aradino@hexbear.net 9 points 3 weeks ago

That's a very tired joke but it would be better