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There wasn't really a struggle session over it, just a "yeah let's not give away easy ammunition to call us antisemites" in the immediate aftermath of Oct 7th. Nobody really thought it was antisemitism to burn the Israeli flag but that anything involving the star of david is incredibly easy propaganda for zionists to claim antisemitism regardless of the reality.
The star of david and the swastika are both religious symbols.
To enforce this rule means that they should also enforce a rule against burning the nazi flag.
Otherwise it's just jewish exceptionalism.
So is a cross but you probably wouldnt burn one cause of the implications
I would burn a Kkkristian flag with a cross on it in an instant and I don't think any black person would look at that happening at a demonstration and assume "kkk". The KKK cross burning was a very specific ritual involving construction of and burning of a physical cross standing by itself either in a yard or near people as a threat or at the center of their ritual gatherings. Backwards patriachal religions have no right to exist nor their symbols of the mythology and superstition any special right to protection when those symbols are at the front phalanxes of the hordes of hate and genocide.
This is just bad faith hasbara tier garbage. Like saying I want to knife Christian children because I'd burn or shoot up a Nazi belt with "god with us' on it.
Fuck using religions as shields. Religious fascists don't get it both ways, they don't get to both use it, be recognized for it, receive protections for it being them and them being it and have the casual/passive support of a majority (last I checked) of the adherents of it in the west yet somehow not owners of it and somehow protected from feeling "unsafe" by incidentally destroying the symbol of their movement which they NOT I, not people against it, put on there (on the flag) as a deliberate shield to be used in just this way. And it's shameful it works and you lean right into their troll-faced attempts at making anti-semitism hatred of pissrael.
Don't want it burned? Make those zionist fuckers take it off their fucking flag. Not our fucking job. Not our choice. Don't blame us.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_George's_Cross
I think these emojis should stay, just for the record, but a significant number of European flags have Christian symbols on them.
oh it was and continued to be a constant struggle session. Dozens of comments have been removed for it, users banned and threads locked
:isreal-cool: is right up there with incels in terms of how often they trigger struggle sessions. There seems to be at least one 150+ comment thread about it every month or two.
I'm talking about the time of implementation. There was barely any disagreement that I recall, there was barely a blip about it, most people shrugged at the time or mildly agreed that not giving easy fuel was better. It was in the last few weeks that this suddenly started appearing in conversations here frequently.
(But looking down)
There was absolutely a struggle session and users got banned when it went down. It's just so long that a lot of people forget it happened. And the argument against having the emoji wasn't just that it could be antisemtic, it was also that it made some users uncomfortable. It's also how we got rid of the :saudicool: emoji when someone rightly pointed out what that Arabic text on the KSA flag is.
Oh I used similar examples as the Saudi flag assuming it wouldn't be a problem here but glad to see there was some amount of self awareness there when that struggle sesh went down.
The Saudi flag wasn't a problem. Some muslim users at the time basically said they didn't care if there was an emoji burning a KSA or ISIS flag (yes, also why we don't have :isiscool: lol) just because the shahada was on it. I'm also not sure I would call it self-awareness as much as ignorance and also trying to cover their own asses. They claimed ignorance about the shahada, but IIRC :turkeycool: was only removed much later, even though it was pointed out the crescent is also an Islamic symbol (which the people against having the genuine israel cool thought was "too far").
There's also all of the flags with Christian symbolism that are allowed, and then there is
(the lotus flower is a sacred symbol/image in Hinduism).
Yes maybe self awareness wasn't the right way to put it, more like following through on their own line of logic in a way that doesn't make them look as hypocritical. If there was those emojis still and not the israel one it would look even more ridiculous