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I would burn a Kkkristian flag with a cross on it in an instant and I don't think any black person would look at that happening at a demonstration and assume "kkk". The KKK cross burning was a very specific ritual involving construction of and burning of a physical cross standing by itself either in a yard or near people as a threat or at the center of their ritual gatherings. Backwards patriachal religions have no right to exist nor their symbols of the mythology and superstition any special right to protection when those symbols are at the front phalanxes of the hordes of hate and genocide.
This is just bad faith hasbara tier garbage. Like saying I want to knife Christian children because I'd burn or shoot up a Nazi belt with "god with us' on it.
Fuck using religions as shields. Religious fascists don't get it both ways, they don't get to both use it, be recognized for it, receive protections for it being them and them being it and have the casual/passive support of a majority (last I checked) of the adherents of it in the west yet somehow not owners of it and somehow protected from feeling "unsafe" by incidentally destroying the symbol of their movement which they NOT I, not people against it, put on there (on the flag) as a deliberate shield to be used in just this way. And it's shameful it works and you lean right into their troll-faced attempts at making anti-semitism hatred of pissrael.
Don't want it burned? Make those zionist fuckers take it off their fucking flag. Not our fucking job. Not our choice. Don't blame us.
Unironic use of maoist standard English
incredible
Acting like (incidentally) burning a symbol put on the flag NOT BY US but by them is the same as a mass murder camp?
Pathetic. Disgusting. Intellectually dishonest. You have no arguments so resort to emotionally extreme appeals detached from reality. YOU LOSE.
As Finkelstein once said I don't care about your crocodile tears and I don't care about your attempted emotional terrorism in defense of genocidal settler monsters who fully deserve being compared to Hitlerite Germany and their symbol (and this flag is their chosen symbol, the only other option I'm aware of as a stand-in for zionism being just the star by itself which I'd avoid for obvious reasons) treated as similar to the swastika with similar disdain and scorn and yes burnings and throwing in a pile of manure.
This is typical of zionists and their supporters (including liberal/apologist/secret supporters of which there are many who display the German model of self-flagellation and feeling guilt that blinds them to any critical thought on matters involving Jews/zionists) by the way who conflate everything with the Holocaust and are constantly pulling that out as a card to excuse their atrocities.
It's time to take it away. What Germans and Poles did to European Jews 70 years ago doesn't excuse the (genocidal) existence of pissrael nor does it provide some special magic exemption from examination and criticism and yes disdain and mockery and spitting on card nor some eternal shield they can use to bash others in the face. This "waaaagh I'm a victim, some Jews (same ones hated by zionists for not joining them) were victims, so we get to do what we want, any pushback or existence of things that are mean to us is a holocaust so ban mentions of Gaza or hurting our symbols" is infantile.
Holocaust trivialization is not okay (which is what you do saying things like that, the exact same canard that zionists pull out and accuse anyone against the existence of pissrael of being after).
Absolute fire
Oh yeah, we were all burning stars of david and then they just happened to put it on their flag later. Fuck off, you understand exactly what context you're doing it in. While you're calling me emotional you obviously have an emotional attachement to specifically burning the star of david. No other reference to Israel will do, it HAS to be the one that directly evokes the holocaust.
You can compare Israel's genocide to the holocaust without a "burn the jews" emoji. Literally nobody is stopping you from doing that. Just don't project your trivilisation of the holocaust, your demand to evoke antisemitism - you can say it's not your fault they put it on their flag all you want, but it is your fault you're ignoring the context of the holocaust - onto me. Don't project your intellectual dishonesty onto me - I'm not a zionist for understanding the context in which I criticise Israel, but you are an antisemite for demanding that you should be allowed to ignore that context.
It "has to be" the actual flag of Israel because Israel is doing a holocaust right now, take this zionist horseshit to reddit
Of course, totally not antisemitic for you to call for a second holocaust against Jews if they're also committing their own holocaust. As we all know, we just need one more genocide and everything will be finally sorted out.
I'm not a zionist, I can just see where the line between antizionism and antisemitism is. You know full well that it evokes the holocaust, you're not even trying to hide it, so you know full well that it crosses the line into antisemitism.
Please point out where anyone has done that here on Hexbear.
You have alleged that I or others have called for a second holocaust against jews. Show me where that happened. Calling for burning a national flag is not anywhere near equivalent to calling for the death of all jews, so show me where it happened if you're not a bald faced liar.
And not for nothing, you are behaving in a way that is indistinguishable from a zionist doing hasbara.
https://hexbear.net/comment/6421932
Holy fucking Zionist take