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After Katrina, the news was full of stories of riots and looting, but the reality on the ground was that people were coming together to help each other out. Fascism needs state power and elite support to remain appealing; once that crumbles, the ones who survive are the ones who are capable of mutual support and cooperation. The crumbling's gonna suck, but as everyone else is pointing out, things already suck.
This is the antidote to depression-spiraling I needed to hear, thank you. And it is so right. No matter how bad it gets, hell even the worse it gets, the more people are going to need to turn to something that provides real help and provides relief from the "dog-eat-dog," hyper-atomised, individualistic selfishness of this wheezing, cancer-riddled empire.
The fascists may be able to pretend to provide that at first, but the contradictions inherent within their ideology and in their very ability to maintain a sustained group that doesn't start eating itself are going to be intensifying along with the crumbling empire. They can project all the power for a while, but over time, they can't last. It will be the groups led by communists that will survive. And I don't even mean full on, theory-reading ideologically self-proclaimed commies like us (though any group with such leaders who are well read in communist theory are going to have a very big leg up in being able to get things up and working and sustained), but even the groups that rediscover the wheel and turn to communist-style organizing, resource allocation, and commitment to finding out what actually works, will still effectively become communist out of necessity. I would bet there will be a kind of Darwinian selection of groups (organizations at different scales that have the apparatus to provide the kind of help that a community and even a state should provide) where the ones that survive and thrive are simply those that can provide what people actually need. It will be the groups most opposed to the fascism that is making the world all the more hellish and unlivable, opposed to the fascism that caused the rot in the first place, who will be the best equipped and able to truly help people and provide material circumstances that make for a life worth living.
I think you put it way better than I could!