A little dated, but the Dems are still banging that drum.
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True. But the sad reality is that the American version of "democracy" is one where unless you vote for (or cheer-lead for) the Democrats, you're gonna be accused of anything from being a Russian spy to a secret MAGA supporter. It's absolutely psychotic behavior from them. The whole point of a democracy imo is that you get to vote according to your own conscience, not forced to compromise yourself into voting against your preferred candidate and for arming a foreign genocide, for example. The Dems seem perfectly happy to make those compromises so long as their own lives aren't too negatively impacted. That's why they lost a lot of left votes, that and the fact they were too busy courting conservative voters to make a single concession to the left.
You don’t get to say that in a system with first past the post. You seem to misunderstand the situation here. @themeatbridge has it correct. If you don’t vote then you’re voting for the person that won, you’re not voting against the person that lost. In FPTP that’s the only outcome. Your “conscience” might not let you choose to vote for a Democrat because you think that it’s just going to perpetuate the same genocide, but then when the genocide gets much much worse under a Republican you are directly to blame. You don’t get to dodge the issue anymore. This is the same for any issue, especially if the candidate actually campaigned on it.
Maybe in an ideal world. But I think the logic of lesser evil voting is pretty unassailable in the US electoral system. It’s not true political autonomy but it can keep fascists out of office.
I think everyone on the left (from a US perspective, including democrats) needs to take a deep breath and realize we need to work together right now to defeat fascism, despite our strong disagreements.
I could scarcely agree less. Once a party does a genocide, they're dead to me.
in the US you have to first assess the situation. if the worst candidate may win, you should vote the lesser evil. if the lesser evil will likely win without your vote, it's time to support a third party that's even better.