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[–] rowdy@lemmy.zip 74 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Samsung Galaxy S25 Ultra 256GB - $1299

Apple 16 Pro Max 256GB - $1199

Google Pixel 9 Pro 256GB - $1199

The only person being represented by this meme is OP.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

My current galaxy cost like $200

People paying a grand for a cell phone are suckers for real

[–] accideath@feddit.org 26 points 1 week ago (21 children)

Apple devices mostly aren‘t significantly more expensive than their counterparts by other manufacturers.

However, most of those offer cheaper alternatives that Apple doesn’t. While the most expensive Samsung S25 is more expensive than the equivalent iPhone, Samsung also sells models under 100€. That does skew the perception towards Samsung being more affordable.

Which it is, of course, if you don’t care about the extra amenities of more expensive phones.

[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Apple's discounting strategy is generally to sell last year's model, sometimes the model before that, with roughly $200 discounts for each year since its release. They sometimes release a lower spec model (the 16e is the current example, prior SE models or even the mini models from previous generations were part of this strategy as well) and that sometimes means the 2-year-old model isn't kept available as long.

That's where their 5-7 year support window really shines, in that they can just sell older models as discounted models, knowing that the new owner will still get 3-5 years of support.

The other thing is that the used market for iPhones is pretty robust. I can go buy used phones that are 3 or 4 years old and still get a good 1-4 years of additional support. At least in the U.S., if you told me my budget for a phone was gonna be $300 for the next 2 years, I think I'd probably buy a used iPhone.

As it currently stands, I'm still on Pixels on a 2 year cycle, but I also know that my "sell used to offset the price of my new phone" strategy also would be much cheaper if I did it with iPhones instead of Pixels.

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

That's where their 5-7 year support window

This is one of the worse scams that Apple perpetrate with iOS admins iPadOS - yes, the devices get updates for as many years as specified. However, basically all apps available for iOS and iPadOS only support the two latest versions of the OS, meaning that once your device is out of support, it functionally becomes a brick after one year, as no apps will support it anymore.

Android has a worse record of keeping the OS up to date on devices, but app developers on Android routinely support 10 or more versions back of the OS, making this problem less severe.

[–] accideath@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

I’m well aware of apple’s strategy and I myself am typing this on an iPhone 13 mini I bought refurbished.

However, for public perception of a brand as being expensive, used/refurbished models don’t really count. The cheapest phone Apple currently sells new (16e) is about 600€; 700€ directly from Apple. That’s not a cheap phone.
Samsung, as one of the most expensive android brands, still sells a variety of phones well below that, as low as 80€ for a brand new phone.

That obviously skews the perception towards Samsung being more affordable than Apple. Which they are. I cannot possibly get a new iPhone at 80€ or even a decent refurbished one.

But of course that still doesn’t mean iPhones are overpriced. You usually get what you pay for and similar devices by other manufacturers are usually just as expensive.

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You can buy a brand new iPhone 16e starting at $599.

[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I don't know the current exchange rate, but I feel like $599 is significantly more than <100€

[–] accideath@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The exchange rate is pretty close to 1:1 these days. It is significantly more.

[–] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I know, I was being sardonic. It's insane to suggest that a $600+ phone is a budget option.

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Oh it’s definitely not a budget option. It’s Apple’s idea of budget.

[–] accideath@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

I was just backing you up with an approximate exchange rate.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don't think I've paid more than that for a pixel, and I have bought a 256 GB Pixel before. I feel like that $600 apple phone has 32 GB storage or something absurd

[–] mateofeo85@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

iPhone batteries don’t blow up like pixels.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I've had like 5 and I have zero idea what you're referring to

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's true, they just get nerfed into planned obsolesce which causes the company to get sued.

[–] rowdy@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wait until you hear what the fix is for the exploding Pixel batteries

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh I'm aware. Apple set the trend just like they did with the pricing of non Apple devices.

[–] rowdy@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

We're really not gonna devolve into "Apple is to blame for everything other manufacturers do" argument are we? These companies blow - but blaming one to excuse the others is nutty.

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're right. Apple charging $1000 dollars for a device had no bearing on capitalism's way of setting prices based on what consumers are willing to pay... Look up ultrabooks.

[–] rowdy@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sounds like your issue is with capitalism. Fair.

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It is, but it's also with trillion dollar companies with slave labor, and no I'm not just talking about Apple this time.

[–] rowdy@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

Now you’re getting it.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Name a hated trend in phones which apple didn't do first

[–] accideath@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago

They then fixed the issue and are now more transparent about the health of your battery than many Android manufacturers. While "battery gate" had been a problem for a little while around 2017, it hasn’t been in more than 7 years. Old iPhones last a very long time these days and warn you if your battery is degraded to a point where it’ll affect the usability of your iPhone.

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 1 points 1 week ago

I have a Nexus 5 still on its original battery. Idk how.

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

or for 559 you can get a 256 GB pixel

[–] Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Apple devices mostly aren‘t significantly more expensive than their counterparts by other manufacturers.

However, most of those offer cheaper alternatives that Apple doesn’t.

So, there are no Apple counterparts for what "other manufacturers" make.

[–] accideath@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

Well, depends on the price point but below 500-600€, yea, Apple has nothing to offer. At or above that price point, there obviously are counterparts to Apple devices and vice versa.

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[–] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

Galaxies and pixels are half off msrp like 6 months later.

[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Their 1TB version is $1600 because they get away with charging $400 for $40 worth of storage.

[–] Michal@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is it really 40$ in that form factor?

[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I just extrapolate from NVMe SSDs which are currently ~$55 for 1TB, so ~$40 for 750GB = 1TB - 250GB. It's really hard to find info about the true cost of internal storage on mobile devices.